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Offline Bossieman
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« on: March 15, 2001, 09:58:59 AM »
I have read a lot the last days about x-box and what people think about the system.
Sony havent done anything yet to make the PS2 sell good, they dont need to, the system is selling it self.
Just think when Sony wants people to see the PS2.
When they do comercials with 2 and 3 generation games people will get very impressed, they are the best makers of productnames, just think of walkman.
They are way bigger than MS.
the biggest 3 partydevelopers are not interested in the x-box.
Everyone wants a PS2.
Nintendo is focusing on younger people.
PS2 is already a success in Japan, x-box isnt.
The N64 could not stop Sony even though they had a more powerful system.
Sony knows the homeelectronic buissnes- they created it.
They have never dissapointed me.

I just think that Sony is unstoppable. I cant see 1 reason that they will fail.
Everybody is talking about this next-gen war, Sega is gone, Im sure that MS is not going to be a serious threat to Sony, MS may sell good in US but not as good as Sony.
Maybe there is something that I dont get, but I think this war is over.
time will tell.

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2001, 10:14:56 AM »
You know it\'s great touting yourself as the toughest kid on the block only to find out your the ONLY kid on the block!

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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2001, 10:28:02 AM »
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You know it\'s great touting yourself as the toughest kid on the block only to find out your the ONLY kid on the block!


Hey, that was well said.

Nice post.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2001, 12:48:54 PM »
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You know it\'s great touting yourself as the toughest kid on the block only to find out your the ONLY kid on the block!


Wow, that was nice. A cool one sentence response that was direct and to the point. I am impressed.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2001, 01:08:50 PM »
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Sony havent done anything yet to make the PS2 sell good, they dont need to, the system is selling it self.
 


Wouldn\'t that be a negative thing?

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2001, 02:38:15 PM »
yo bossie man im a sony fan but i dont say its un stoppable and it hasnt been the first or so home electronic stuff if u wanna know what is its microsoft was before sony.Alot of things were before sony think about it.


 And professior nice dis!
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Is it me? Or does PSone own all the other systems?

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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2001, 02:48:04 PM »
Very nice professor...

The N64 also had alot of hurdles for developers that turned them away.  And going to the only other competition.  

N64-Catridge being expensive, hard to program for, came out a year later, and games were few and far between.

PSX-CD(very cheap to make and distrubute, third parties liked this), the system was very easy to develope for, Sony had it\'s doors wide open for who ever wanted to come in.  Lots of games for everyone.

The Saturn was a very niche market and shouldn\'t be counted.  Still a good system though.

Nintendo has alot more appeal this time.  It\'s got all the big third party developers except Konami (who cares, we don\'t need a Metal Gear Cubed :rolleyes: )  Tons of inhouse developement.  Franchises from every direction.

Too address the kiddie issue-Namco, Sega, Retro, Silicon Knights, EA and Capcom are behind the GC.  It will have a broad range of games.

And the GC will be competitely priced.  Since it doesn\'t have any junk like a DVD, CD, or backwards compatability, it will be cheap.  I\'m guessing anywhere from 150-200$.  

X-box is still getting started.  A very rocky start, but I bet things will pick up soon.  They haven\'t shown us everything by any means.  All we saw were the 1st party efforts.  E3 will show us more.  I see MS being the underdog this round though.


Now don\'t go and I say I think PS2 will fail.  I highly doubt it will.  I just don\'t see it taking over the market.  Maybe it will hit a very comfortable 30-40% market share but I don\'t guess any more.  I guess the same for GC.

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2001, 03:12:56 PM »
Well, Sony forced Sega out of the console industry. And the same thing would have happened to Nintendo if it weren\'t for pokemon...
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2001, 03:19:34 PM »
I think your wrong:p

Mario 64
Turok
Turok2
Banjo
Mario Kart 64
Zelda
Kirby
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All on 64, all million sellers.  And 64 hit 20 million consoles way before a pokemon came out for it.

GBA doesn\'t have but one Pokemon game announced for it, and it managed to snag 3 million preoders in Japan.  Just wait till they open up the lines here...

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2001, 03:23:27 PM »
Oh yeah,

Super Smash Bros
Goldeneye
Wave Race
Diddy Kong Racing

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2001, 07:14:50 PM »
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I think your wrong:p

Mario 64
Turok
Turok2
Banjo
Mario Kart 64
Zelda
Kirby
Zelda MM
DK 64
1080
Cruisin USA


All on 64, all million sellers.  And 64 hit 20 million consoles way before a pokemon came out for it.

GBA doesn\'t have but one Pokemon game announced for it, and it managed to snag 3 million preoders in Japan.  Just wait till they open up the lines here...


But how many is that compared to the sales of the PSX?? The sales of the FF\'s on the Sony console alone topples the sum of half of those listed titles. Animal\'s right; if it wasn\'t for Pokemon, Nintendo would have completely flopped. Many of the games you listed were released in the early stages of the N64, and some in its middle. After what few hits the Big N had left were gone, the N64 was having a massive drought of sales. Then Pokemon marched in and changed all that. However much I hate to admit it as a Nintendo fanboy, it was Pokemon that engraved Nintendo\'s name on many people\'s minds, and told them that the Big N still existed. If it wasn\'t for that pudgy yellow labrat, we would have seen the unveiling of the GC way before the ending of the N64\'s life-cycle, despite that crap policy Nintendo has about supporting its consoles for 5 years. And the reason the GBA has so many pre-orders in Japan is that the Gameboy is simply popular in the country, with no negativity going against it (And that little possibility that all the games coming out for it are incredible ;))

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2001, 07:28:15 PM »
I really hate when people say that the only reason why Nintendo is still alive is Pokemon and then they act like it was a mistake. DUH, Nintendo came up with something new and innovative to save their OWN asses. Me thinks Nintendo made a smart move. Think about it, one franchise completely saved them from total annihilation from the console market , how can anyone say that\'s not an intelligent business move?It  boggles the mind. You may not like Pokemon but you can\'t deny that that was a very smart move by Nintendo( HAL makes Pokemon BTW, not EAD, just clearing that up).

Pokemon= cheap and easy way to make money, Sega probably wishes that they made up something like that...

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2001, 07:52:34 PM »
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I really hate when people say that the only reason why Nintendo is still alive is Pokemon and then they act like it was a mistake. DUH, Nintendo came up with something new and innovative to save their OWN asses. Me thinks Nintendo made a smart move. Think about it, one franchise completely saved them from total annihilation from the console market , how can anyone say that\'s not an intelligent business move?It  boggles the mind. You may not like Pokemon but you can\'t deny that that was a very smart move by Nintendo( HAL makes Pokemon BTW, not EAD, just clearing that up).

Pokemon= cheap and easy way to make money, Sega probably wishes that they made up something like that...


I truly hate Pokemon, but I agree. It was a smart move for Nintendo, and I\'m sure every company wishes they could come up with a franchise that could be near as succesful as PokeCrap. Nintendo really wasn\'t getting much attenion until Pokecrap came around. Smart move on Nintendo\'s part. Who can blame a company for trying to make money?

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2001, 08:03:37 PM »
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I really hate when people say that the only reason why Nintendo is still alive is Pokemon and then they act like it was a mistake. DUH, Nintendo came up with something new and innovative to save their OWN asses. Me thinks Nintendo made a smart move. Think about it, one franchise completely saved them from total annihilation from the console market , how can anyone say that\'s not an intelligent business move?It  boggles the mind. You may not like Pokemon but you can\'t deny that that was a very smart move by Nintendo( HAL makes Pokemon BTW, not EAD, just clearing that up).

Pokemon= cheap and easy way to make money, Sega probably wishes that they made up something like that...


But when that same franchise is milked for every single drop for years, you begin to despise just how cheap Nintendo can go. I agree with you Jumpman though, that it was a smart move on Nintendo\'s part. The point of my post however, was to state that if it wasn\'t for Pokemon, Nintendo would have been wiped out, at least in the console market. We seem to agree on that at least.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2001, 08:08:36 PM »
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But when that same franchise is milked for every single drop for years, you begin to despise just how cheap Nintendo can go. I agree with you Jumpman though, that it was a smart move on Nintendo\'s part. The point of my post however, was to state that if it wasn\'t for Pokemon, Nintendo would have been wiped out, at least in the console market. We seem to agree on that at least.


Well, most companies do that.

Tomb Raider?
Street Fighter?
Resident Evil?
Mega Man?
Sonic?
Zelda?
 So on and so on. It is a franchise. That is what a franchise is for. Milking people for money, based on a well known and established character.

 

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