Now this is just pathetic....FAKE pics were shown at gamestock

http://www.mycgiserver.com/~sellmic/suspicious_amped_image.jpg

http://www.mikekraus.de/lol.jpg

http://sellmic.com/amped_strange_edges.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/davidmitchell/ps2/amped.jpg


 
This explains it.....the movies for games look NOTHING like the pics(read worst)...this is pathetic..looks like those people who bashed The Getaway need to eat some humble pie indeed:D?....you know who you are;)

This pretty much destroys any kind of credibility microsoft had.

Originally posted by Nplayer-2


 
This explains it.....the movies for games look NOTHING like the pics(read worst)...this is pathetic..looks like those people who bashed The Getaway need to eat some humble pie indeed:D?....you know who you are;)

This pretty much destroys any kind of credibility microsoft had.

Unlike Sony, who merely claimed 75 million polygons, Toy Story graphics, Episode 1 CGI, and 250 launch games. Damn MS, at least Sony delivers on their hype.

Find an actual existing product to bash so people might take you somewhat seriously.

Sony NEVER said 75millon polygons had effecst or were in-game

microsoft said it\'s 125million polygon number has heavy texturing and lighting...do the games look like they have 125mpps?..hell no

I have never seen a link saying the PS2 would do toy story graphics...can you find that evidence you lack to prove your case?

George Lucas said that not sony...and for the last time when he said the PS2 does it in real-time...HE MEANT THE REAL-TIME POWER OF THE COMPUTERS THEY USED....nothing in episode1 was real-time.....get it?

250 launch games?...show me that they said that.

Well I was going to reply, but N-player already asked everything I was going to..

- dm
- what\'s in the f\'cking box?

Right, N-Player, I\'m gonna get into a moronic debate over who said what, especially when those claims are over a year old. All I know is those were the buzz all over the net way back when, and numerous people already knew Sony couldn\'t deliver.

Sorry, I don\'t archive every bit of info on Sony. I\'m sure several members here can back me up on those lame claims by Sony.

Living-In-Clip, Altered, et al, back me up.

Also, you\'re still incredibly pathetic to be bashing something that doesn\'t exist.

To be honest I don\'t understand why so many people get worked up over these damn companies. There\'s more to life than games...

Nintendo lies,
Sega lies,
Sony lies,
M$ lies,

Every company lies, you think they\'re going to sit there and tell you the 100% truth? Hell no.

Nintendo: Uhh, the N64 delivers SGI graphics for $199. Load management will eliminate \'pop-up.\'

Sega: Our piece of crap (in 3d) machine, the Saturn, is much more powerful than the PSX. And according to the numbers we see, we\'re outselling them. Our 3rd party games look much better than theirs. (Tom Kalinske)

Sony: Faulty Playstations? Must be the rug you place them on.

M$: Um, we actually have wanted to enter the console business since before Nintendo. Today we present you a PC-in-a-box that can deliver 100+mpps in real-time game scenarios.


** These statements are not exact quotes, but each company did say something to that effect. **

 The point. forget what the company is telling you, and wait for yourself to determine what they delivered.

- dm
- what\'s in the f\'cking box?

Hell I have an interview with the president of atari saying that the jaguar was more powerful than the saturn and a \'little bit\' behind the PSX. Where is he now? Managing a Wendy\'s.

Originally posted by Nplayer-2
This explains it.....the movies for games look NOTHING like the pics(read worst)...this is pathetic..looks like those people who bashed The Getaway need to eat some humble pie indeed:D?....you know who you are;)

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Sigh.....you really DO have the intellect of a child (hence the Troll Alert).

Read the following;

http://www.xbox.com/news/default.htm

"Some of the images for Amped released during Gamestock were enhanced to illustrate some features that will be in the final product. While this is a common practice for games so early in development, we apologize for the confusion. No one intended to be deceptive. Everyone was so busy prepping for Gamestock, that we just missed the fact that these were labeled "concept art". Frankly, we\'re impressed with the skillz of those digital sleuths! Nice work!"

That\'s right, an error on the pics of just ONE game (the least graphically impressive), a game which was shown and PLAYABLE at gamestock. The movies of this and ALL the other games ARE actually game footage, and ALL the other screenshots ARE ingame.

If you disagree, then (excluding AMPED) tell us which screenshot or movie is false. What\'s that? You can\'t? Thought so!

Read EVERY report from those who attended Gamestock and played the games THEMSELVES. Do you think IGN, Dailyradar, Gamespot and many other websites are ALL lying? Do you REALLY believe that?

As for \'The Getaway\';

Before;

http://www.zdnet.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/ps2/getaway/getaway_screen009.jpg

After;

http://www.zdnet.com/gamespot/images/screenshots/ps2/getaway/getaway_b2_screen001.jpg

For more, go to;

"The Getaway"
http://www.zdnet.com/gamespot/filters/products/screenindex/0,11104,914419,00.html

I rest my case.

Originally posted by Nplayer-2
Sony NEVER said 75millon polygons had effecst or were in-game

microsoft said it\'s 125million polygon number has heavy texturing and lighting...do the games look like they have 125mpps?..hell no

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AND just as Sony NEVER said 75mpps were ingame, MS NEVER said 125mpps were ingame!!! Such double standards is typical of you Nplayer.

Also, it is 125mpps textured+lit, NOWHERE does it refer to the LEVEL of texturing involved, just as NOWHERE claims 125mpps ingame.

I have never seen a link saying the PS2 would do toy story graphics...can you find that evidence you lack to prove your case?

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Their press release went one better than that;

Sony Creates A Monster:
http://headline.gamespot.com/news/99_03/02_vg_pstwo/index.html

"Sony\'s press material released today sums it up nicely: "Imagine walking into the screen and experiencing a movie in real-time... this is the world we are about to enter.""

OH P-L-E-A-S-E!  

LOL!!!

they put that up AFTER THEIR DIRTY LITTLE TRICK WAS FOUND OUT...which makes it worst....why not tell us from the START that they were NOT in-game that they were HORRIBLE photoshop renders that appear to be done by a dumb idiot who has no knowledge of photoshop?(oh wait these are microsoft developers after all;))

oh they forgot? i guess soon after they will tell us they forgot the xbox does not do 125mpps fully textured and lit...they forgot they need to make money over the next 5 years..they forgot they need games people will be intrested in...GIVE ME A ****N BREAK

Gotham looks like it either is not real-time or a photoshop render...there is a pic where the sky is grey and green YET the windsheild is bright and blue...explain that...DOC

and why does that soul reaver ripp-off(azurik) look like **** when compared to the screen shots?..

nuff said.

i never said this is not a game but the screen shots look MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the movies we have seen...that is what i\'m mad about, trying to pass of HORRIBLE photoshop work as in-game pics(there was one where the guy was going 51mph..yet he was standing still...ROTFLMAO!!!!:D)

The movies look WORST for all the screen shots shown...that is not opinion but FACT.

PLEASE SHOW ME A LINK WHERE SONY OR THE DEVELOPER SAID THOSE GETAWAY SCREEN SHOT WERE IN-GAME OR GAMEPLAY...PLEASE PROVE THIS.

i have NEVER seen this....

i guess amped will go way of the getaway eh..DOC?

AND just as Sony NEVER said 75mpps were ingame, MS NEVER said 125mpps were ingame!!! Such double standards is typical of you Nplayer.

Also, it is 125mpps textured+lit, NOWHERE does it refer to the LEVEL of texturing involved, just as NOWHERE claims 125mpps ingame.

That proves another one of my arguments...the 125mpps means NOTHING because as you said we will never see a game with that many....

xbox\'s 125mpp are just like sonys 75mpps...

they will never be in a game...they mean nothing

thanks for the support DOC:D



Their press release went one better than that;

Sony Creates A Monster:
http://headline.gamespot.com/news/99_03/02_vg_pstwo/index.html

"Sony\'s press material released today sums it up nicely: "Imagine walking into the screen and experiencing a movie in real-time... this is the world we are about to enter.""

OH P-L-E-A-S-E!  

keyword:

IMAGINE....that means YOU imagine what PS2 will do..if you imagine the matrix that\'s on you...but if you imagine somethng around MGS2 YOU would be right...

Originally posted by Nplayer-2
they put that up AFTER THEIR DIRTY LITTLE TRICK WAS FOUND OUT...which makes it worst

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Obviously the reply on XBOX.COM was beyond your comprehension.

Gotham looks like it either is not real-time or a photoshop render...there is a pic where the sky is grey and green YET the windsheild is bright and blue...explain that...DOC

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Now you really sound stupid. READ EVERY report about this game, they ALL confirm what we see in those screens, even down to the reflections.

This game is basically the result of porting elements from MSR onto the XBox in just 4 weeks, hence NO real sky and many placement textures. The reflection on the cars means nothing. If they wanted to, they could have used your troll pic as the image reflected on the cars, even though it doesn\'t exist in the background (All this time on the forums and you STILL don\'t understand much about graphics and hardware!).

and why does that soul reaver ripp-off(azurik) look like **** when compared to the screen shots?..

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Again, READ the reports from those who\'ve PLAYED it, SEEN IT, CONFIRMED IT themselves!

Those are LAME attempts Nplayer, because EVERY article reporting back from gamestock confirms those screenshots and movies are REAL.

PLEASE SHOW ME A LINK WHERE SONY OR THE DEVELOPER SAID THOSE GETAWAY SCREEN SHOT WERE IN-GAME OR GAMEPLAY...PLEASE PROVE THIS.
i have NEVER seen this....

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You don\'t seem to remember much do you!

Last year saw MANY long debates over the validity of the Getaway screenshots. Some said they were real, some said they were rendered. Anyway, there was an interview with the developers were they said the screenshots WERE ingame.

I\'ll find that link soon (it was from last year).

i guess amped will go way of the getaway eh..DOC?

Nope, the final game will probably look BETTER than those pics (afterall, just look at the trees!).

Originally posted by Nplayer-2
That proves another one of my arguments...the 125mpps means NOTHING because as you said we will never see a game with that many....

Did I EVER say 125mpps INGAME? NO! Unlike yourself, I actually have an understanding of how 3D graphics work. If you could stop being a fanboy for just a few seconds, you might actually learn something.

Specs are NOT irrelevant. The specs provided by Sony and MS gives us an idea of their machine\'s power under TEST conditions. Once you add layers of effects, AI, physics, gamecode etc, the final polygon levels will be less than those mentioned in the specs.

"Sony\'s press material released today sums it up nicely: "Imagine walking into the screen and experiencing a movie in real-time... this is the world we are about to enter.""
OH P-L-E-A-S-E!  

keyword:

IMAGINE....that means YOU imagine what PS2 will do..if you imagine the matrix that\'s on you...but if you imagine somethng around MGS2 YOU would be right...

Wrong. They didn\'t say imagine what you think the PS2 can do, they SPECIFIED EXACTLY what you should imagine, and that was "experiencing a movie in real-time". MGS2 is FAR from EVER being a movie in realtime.

You continue to lower yourself everyday NP.  You have become the master of the double standard and make yourself out as a company monkey (no offense to Clyde who is clearly not a monkey).  On one hand I watch you cry out the evils of MS for this (which was cheap of MS) while defending Sony for the same thing (which was cheap as well, I seem to remember a few great examples from a basket ball game).  It is clear to everyone you motives are driven by ignorance and bias.  One of these days you are going to have to realize that we are talking about video game consoles which are not worth debasing yourself publicly over.

datamage,

The reason why we "get so worked up" over this BS is because N-Player is a lamer.

No one is claiming their fave company doesn\'t lie. At least the smart members. What we\'re sick of is all this crap about how MS hypes their product to no end and fails to deliver (something impossible since they haven\'t actually delivered it, yet) while ignoring the lies by Sony, which happens to be his fave company at the moment.

Watch for him to change his tune if the GC makes a huge splash.