Who is the most undderated and overrated developer?

Due to popular opinion I\'d say that EA is now underated... when we started it was overated, but now it has become the oposite.  I also would like to say, lot\'s of people put Square and EA on the same side, hmmm... this is no suprise to me... being that they both basically the same company, seriously, just go to EA\'s site, my proof it there.  Anyway  my opinions...

Underated:

EA/Square - When the Final Fantasy series dies let me know... ok here is an anology... take for instance, the Soprano\'s great TV show right? (work with me I know not everyone likes it) If you like it you watch it every week.  Are you going to watch 9 episodes and say, eh... same show everytime.  Why don\'t they come up with a new plot, new name, or do something comepletely different?  Here\'s a better question, why would you fix something that isn\'t broken.  Simple... you can\'t.  There is nothing wrong with Final Fantasy, what if they changed the battle system and everyone hated it, they would feel like idiots.  So bash it all you want, I believe they are underated.

Sierra - They pop-up once and a while, only when a new half-life mod is coming out, but they have other great games.  Classic games like King\'s Quest(8 of them and 1 remake), Space Quest (6 and a remake I think), Police Quest (now popular SWAT series).  And what about Quest for Glory? Excellent Adventure and FPS games and no one even cares.

Overated:

Sega - Big time overated company, Sonic was great, for Genesis.  I hated when they put it in a 3D world, and now being a developer they are supposedly the ones who make and break the console, Who the **** cares about one developer?  It\'s great in all, but do they really make the entire system, geez maybe if they were a better developer they would have had the hardware/financial issues they had.(ooooh music)

Blizzard - Again, I hate saying this because my beloved Starcraft is my prized possesion, but frankly all there other games suck... Diablo and Diablo II, 1) could tell the difference, 2) Like watching paint dry, 3) for more check my post in rants and raves.  Warcraft, a low quality starcraft that has no place on a PC, I mean what the hell is going on, you can\'t understand them, all you here is "Zugg-Zugg".  WTF is that supposed to mean?

Okay, long but I think I make my point.

I am the most overrated developer out there

I have no credits to my name but I rule !!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Underated:

EA/Square - When the Final Fantasy series dies let me know... ok here is an anology... take for instance, the Soprano\'s great TV show right? (work with me I know not everyone likes it) If you like it you watch it every week.  Are you going to watch 9 episodes and say, eh... same show everytime.  Why don\'t they come up with a new plot, new name, or do something comepletely different?  Here\'s a better question, why would you fix something that isn\'t broken.  Simple... you can\'t.  There is nothing wrong with Final Fantasy, what if they changed the battle system and everyone hated it, they would feel like idiots.  So bash it all you want, I believe they are underated.

Bad Analogy. The plot is different for every episode. How about this. What if every episode of the Sopranos used the same camera angles in the same order for every episode but added new FX. How about if the plot was pretty much the same every episode but there was a new cast. If this were to happen people would never watch the Sopranos get what I am saying? I know Square is not the only one doing this *cough*NINTENDO*cough* but FF is pretty much what they are known for. So it kind of makes them a one trick pony. Nintendo on the other hand has tons of Franchises to squeeze dry and a couple sitting on the bench.

BTW, Does anyone else expect Sonic to show up in some for in the next Mario game? Not necessarily as an actual character with which to interact, but as maybe an Ad in the distance. That would be pretty kool.

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Er... Gohan... your Sopranos analogy is slightly off.  Sopranos doesn\'t have gameplay like FF and Nintendo games have.  After all, these franchises wouldn\'t be selling so much if it werent\' for the tried and true gameplay that each game in that series has.

Originally posted by ElAsesino
Er... Gohan... your Sopranos analogy is slightly off.  Sopranos doesn\'t have gameplay like FF and Nintendo games have.  After all, these franchises wouldn\'t be selling so much if it werent\' for the tried and true gameplay that each game in that series has.

WHOA...Slow down cub scout. I was just correcting someone else\'s Soprano analogy.

BTW, I don\'t see how my analogy could be off. At least not by the standards that you give.

Umm... Gohan I hate to break it to you... but if you\'ve played all 3 the story lines are pretty much original for each, camera angles are random, and like I said battle system is not the greatest but could be worse.  I wouldn\'t mess with games who get 9+ from IGN.com.  I\'ll quote myself again, If it aint broke, don\'t fix it!

Blizzard - Again, I hate saying this because my beloved Starcraft is my prized possesion, but frankly all there other games suck... Diablo and Diablo II, 1) could tell the difference, 2) Like watching paint dry, 3) for more check my post in rants and raves. Warcraft, a low quality starcraft that has no place on a PC, I mean what the hell is going on, you can\'t understand them, all you here is "Zugg-Zugg". WTF is that supposed to mean?

Okay, long but I think I make my point.

Diablo and Diablo II were great games. While Diablo II let me down, it\'s still a good game. And if it wasn\'t for Warcraft, Starcraft wouldn\'t exist. A low-quality Starcraft? You\'re going to compare a game that was made much later than Warcraft and Warcraft II? That makes sense. Wait till WC3 comes out. Blizzard is one of the top-notch PC developers that exist, IMO. Ah well. I guess you were new to RTS games and you played Starcraft prior to the Warcraft series.

- dm
- so whose god will f\'cking save me now?

Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Umm... Gohan I hate to break it to you... but if you\'ve played all 3 the story lines are pretty much original for each, camera angles are random, and like I said battle system is not the greatest but could be worse.  I wouldn\'t mess with games who get 9+ from IGN.com.  I\'ll quote myself again, If it aint broke, don\'t fix it!

Dayum man. I was just trying to make your analogy more relevant to the situation. I love FF but I think your analogy was garbage.

Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Umm... Gohan I hate to break it to you... but if you\'ve played all 3 the story lines are pretty much original for each, camera angles are random, and like I said battle system is not the greatest but could be worse.  I wouldn\'t mess with games who get 9+ from IGN.com.  I\'ll quote myself again, If it aint broke, don\'t fix it!

What have you\'ve been smokin\' Billy? I know that WWF doesn\'t let you wrestle much but that\'s no reason to make wild assumptions.

I\'ll say this once so everyone listen- the gameplay in the FF series has always sucked( with the exception of 4/6 because Nintendo helped with it ).  Its true Billy. If they didn\'t have such magnificant story-lines then the FF series would be dead. That\'s almost starting to happen...

The last two FF games were extremely boring. Square needs to do something about their gameplay. They excell at writing great story-lines but that isn\'t enough for me. If an RPG has bad gameplay then it usually has no replay value since you already know what will happen and games that have no replay vaule don\'t usually get my purchase.

To make me enjoy the FF series again, I think Square should eliminate random battles and steal Grandia 2\'s battle system( boy did that rock). Then FF will be awesome...

I\'ll say this once so everyone listen- the gameplay in the FF series has always sucked( with the exception of 4/6 because Nintendo helped with it

I\'ll say this a couple of times so people get the idea.

Opinion. Opinion. Opinion. Opinion. Opinion. Get the idea?

For you the last two FF\'s were boring. I loved IX and had a total blast with it. And since when did Nintendo help with those FF\'s? BTW, I think you should go back and play IV, it\'s quite primitive.

- dm
- so whose god will f\'cking save me now?

Originally posted by datamage


I\'ll say this a couple of times so people get the idea.

Opinion. Opinion. Opinion. Opinion. Opinion. Get the idea?

For you the last two FF\'s were boring. I loved IX and had a total blast with it. And since when did Nintendo help with those FF\'s? BTW, I think you should go back and play IV, it\'s quite primitive.

- dm
- so whose god will f\'cking save me now?

Yes yes yes I am very aware of the whole " opinion not fact" bit. I noticed that I was kind of expressing my post as factual information for awhile then I started to use the word "I" near the end of it. Don\'t worry, I usually reinforce that rule( but now I\'m too tired to care ) .

Anyhoo, I said that I enjoyed FFIV(which is also FFXI is Japan). It had something different to it that make it some what better, can you say, Nintendo\'s help? They did help them make FFIV. That\'s probably why it stands out the most in the FF series( for the people who played every game, new PSX owners don\'t count). Nintendo and Square also made "Super Mario RPG" together( that game had superb gameplay, second best in my book). Then Square ****ed Nintendo by exclusively developing for Sony only...or did Nintendo **** them? ...

It was nintendo\'s own fault, Square was wanted to make games for one system, Nintendo was greedy and told Square to **** off, and they did.  Nintendo was the one who suffered, not Square.  As you can see all the Final Fantasies sold over a million copys within a year of they\'re release.  Nintendo\'s loss, not Squares.  Nintendo ****ed themselves.

BTW, what is Grandia 2\'s battle system like? I never played it.

Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
It was nintendo\'s own fault, Square was wanted to make games for one system, Nintendo was greedy and told Square to **** off, and they did.  Nintendo was the one who suffered, not Square.  As you can see all the Final Fantasies sold over a million copys within a year of they\'re release.  Nintendo\'s loss, not Squares.  Nintendo ****ed themselves.

Actually Square dissed Nintendo, which is why Yamauchi hates them so much. They were making FF7 for N64. They had tech demos and every thing(I can find them if you want) and the next thing you know it is showing up on the PSX. Square couldn\'t resist the storage capacity of CDs and the graphical capabilities of the PSX.

Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
BTW, what is Grandia 2\'s battle system like? I never played it.

Basically there are no random battles. You can go through the whole game without fighting anyone but bosses and major enemies(Not that it would be possible). All of the enemimes are on the screen and you can fight them or run away. Pretty cool. THe battle system is kind of hard to explain(for me at least) but it is really cool. If you time attacks right you can counter an enemies attack or cancel it all together. You have to actually play it to fully understand.

Actually Square dissed Nintendo, which is why Yamauchi hates them so much. They were making FF7 for N64. They had tech demos and every thing(I can find them if you want) and the next thing you know it is showing up on the PSX. Square couldn\'t resist the storage capacity of CDs and the graphical capabilities of the PSX.

I don\'t know who dissed who, but the tech demo wasn\'t for the N64. Everyone thought it was, but it turned out to be a demo Square was making on a SGI workstation. Since they were moving to 3D, they wanted their developers to get a grasp of it. That tech demo still looks nice, way above what the N64 is capable of. Whether Square told Nintendo to f*ck off, or vice-versa, I don\'t know. Either way, Square isn\'t suffering.

- dm
- so whose god will f\'cking save me now?

datamage: Ok, scratch the word new. Change it to inflated. Namco inflates the character count by adding sub-bosses that are just old characters with new looks and names.

Blizzard - Again, I hate saying this because my beloved Starcraft is my prized possesion, but frankly all there other games suck... Diablo and Diablo II, 1) could tell the difference, 2) Like watching paint dry, 3) for more check my post in rants and raves. Warcraft, a low quality starcraft that has no place on a PC, I mean what the hell is going on, you can\'t understand them, all you here is "Zugg-Zugg". WTF is that supposed to mean?

Before you get into a debate, at least know what you\'re talking about.

How old are you? Do you think Starcraft paved the way for RTS games? Let me guess, you also think gaming started with Sony. Warcraft a low quality Starcraft??? Gee, since when did Blizzard create Starcraft first, with the Pentium 2\'s in full swing, then revert back to pre-Pentium days to create Warcraft?

Can\'t understand Orcs when they speak? Well, gosh darn it, I guess we all skipped Zerg/Protoss Lingo 101 and you didn\'t since you seem to understand just what the hell "En Taro, Adun" and assorted Zerg screeches and shrieks and Protoss dialects mean.