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« on: April 24, 2001, 09:27:26 PM »
When will we see anti-aliasing in PS2 games. I think it\'s one reason why Dreamcast games look so much better right now. Dreamcast has realtime anti-aliasing that smooths out the jaggies. I just read a preview of Crazy Taxi for PS2 at gamespot.com. The writer said that the PS2 version was virtually identical in every way except for the jaggies. If worse comes to worse, I guess I can fork over a hundred bucks for a Dreamcast before they\'re all sold out.

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2001, 09:56:39 PM »
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When will we see anti-aliasing in PS2 games


Sony being the genius that they are decided when making the psx2 that they would use software AA, which was a BIG MISTAKE. You see software AA will and I REPEAT Will never be as good as XBOX\'s HARDWARE FSAA. In order for psx2 games to use AA well, a great performance hit must be taken on the game itself.

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2001, 11:42:33 PM »
*sigh*...i won\'t even bother.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2001, 12:45:06 AM »
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Sony being the genius that they are decided when making the psx2 that they would use software AA, which was a BIG MISTAKE. You see software AA will and I REPEAT Will never be as good as XBOX\'s HARDWARE FSAA. In order for psx2 games to use AA well, a great performance hit must be taken on the game itself.

It may be harder for the developers, but I think software AA was a good idea.  It gives the developers something that they can\'t get on the Xbox, flexibility.  They can do whatever they can think of on the PS2, but on the Xbox, it is just one set way that can\'t be changed.  Developers will be able to get exactly what they want from the PS2, with a little more effort of course.

Some developers have solved the AA problem (Polymorph with GT3), while others are still struggling with it (Acclaim with Crazy Taxi).  So the Xbox does have the advantage there.

And Nplayer-2, I think it\'s time for you to be quiet.  You are just making a fool out of yourself.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2001, 12:55:55 AM »
actully...if you put that much time and effort in your post in response to the moronic and idiotic post ugly put up then....well...you are a fool as well;)
. I\'ve said it before and I\'ll say it again, in terms of ingenuity, exclusivity, and console competition, X-Box brings nothing to the table except a fat wad of cash and some rehashed PC components wrapped with a DC controller and a plastic black box.----RYU

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2001, 01:06:56 AM »
What was so moronic about it?  Both kjin70 and TheOgodlyThing made some good points about how the PS2 has harder to program AA.  Just because they said something bad about the PS2 doesn\'t mean their post is "moronic and idiotic."

And why do you even care Nplayer-2?  I thought you moved on to Computers, or did you switch your entertainment-machine loyalty once again? (I\'m not surprised)
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2001, 02:15:44 AM »
you know me...i want attention..look at me!!!! LOOK AT ME!!!!:laughing:

It\'s the way he wrote it....he sounds like he knows NOTHING about the AA PS2 can acheive(which you proved to be a fact)...and sounds like a complete fanboy(which he is)

I do not play on my consoles no more(well..i must admit i\'m playing paper mario:D)....PC is the way to go...i hope my next system is a 2000Mhz Pentium4;)
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2001, 03:25:28 AM »
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Sony being the genius that they are decided when making the psx2 that they would use software AA, which was a BIG MISTAKE. You see software AA will and I REPEAT Will never be as good as XBOX\'s HARDWARE FSAA. In order for psx2 games to use AA well, a great performance hit must be taken on the game itself.


Quit it already. Nowhere in his post did he compare the PS2 to X-box or mentioned the X-box in any way. Your motives here are being shown quite clearly. And guess what? No one gives a sh!t.

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2001, 06:44:12 AM »
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Sony being the genius that they are decided when making the psx2 that they would use software AA, which was a BIG MISTAKE. You see software AA will and I REPEAT Will never be as good as XBOX\'s HARDWARE FSAA. In order for psx2 games to use AA well, a great performance hit must be taken on the game itself.


...do you understand questions ?  He asked when PS2-games will use FSAA ? ....the answer is : look at GT3 and FFX and then 5 letters and one number(GT3FFX) are enough to explain this issue !  

x-box?   Did someone ask anything about x-box? ...tell me...
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2001, 07:30:31 AM »
Get the **** off Ogodly\'s back. He was just drawing a comparison. Fanboys get so worked up when you point out a area PS2 is inferior.... too bad, cause it is. Get over it. PS2 sucks for FSAA period, like it or not.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2001, 07:33:35 AM »
Xbox certainly has the advantage there and I can\'t help being a little disappointed with software AA (and even that is hard to get for some developers). I like the DC/Xbox approch a whole lot more. :)
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2001, 08:24:02 AM »
ermmm... could someone explain the consept behind "ps2 software AA".
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2001, 09:36:18 AM »
I just want to tell you all my opinion on AA!
Belive me when I say that hardware AA is ****!!
Why? Well do you think we will have AA in the Next generation of consoles? (X-box2, PS3)
Of course not, we dont need it then, the PS2 is a step in that direction. In the furure all chips will be software controlled, I dont now how many times I have to say this:
The PS2 is a step right in to the future, x-box is 20 years back.

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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2001, 10:37:58 AM »
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Of course not, we dont need it then, the PS2 is a step in that direction. In the furure all chips will be software controlled, I dont now how many times I have to say this:
The PS2 is a step right in to the future, x-box is 20 years back.


Regardless weather it\'s in the right direction or not, just look at PSX2’s AA, it will never be able to compete with NGC, or XBOX\'s FSAA, why cause they are using hardware AA which yields allot better results. Sony made mistakes when making the psx2, and not implementing Hardware AA was one of them. Now if you truly believe that software AA is the future, then if so, now was not the time to go about it, when out software is not sophisticated enough to really take advantage of it, cause if it was we would being seeing the results, which we will not. As it stands right now, HARDWARE AA is the best.

Oh and if XBOX is 20 years back, then PSX2 must be at the time of my grandpa.

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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2001, 10:58:35 AM »
Originally by N-PLAYER in a prevoius thread

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So my dear ugly...everytime you respond to my post every time any one of you xbox zealots responds...you are doing exactly what I want you to do..ha ha ha


Yet here you are N-PLAYER in the exact same postion as the your fellow xbox zealots.


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you know me...i want attention..look at me!!!! LOOK AT ME!!!!



FUNNY you mention that, cause that\'s what all your threads, and your presence here is all ABOUT. Like I suggested to you before, go outside and get some friends it will do you good. Plus that way you can leave this site and MSXBOX alone, cause the really sad part is that everyone here scorns at your presence, yet you so desperately try to gain there attention.


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It\'s the way he wrote it....he sounds like he knows NOTHING about the AA PS2 can acheive(which you proved to be a fact)...and sounds like a complete fanboy(which he is)

I do not play on my consoles no more(well..i must admit i\'m playing paper mario)....PC is the way to go...i hope my next system is a 2000Mhz Pentium4


*sigh*...this was too easy-(originally said by N-player)


Originally by N-player in a previous post
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the same people always come to my threads.....always use their same tactics..always try and "put me down

Just like you do, with with me and M4 etc...








Originally by N-player in a previous post
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please get a life...this thread was just to prove to a certain person(N-Player) how pathetic and ridiculous the "hatred" for me is....


LOL, LOL need i say more, you just fell in your own trap dumbass!!!!

 

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