damn you microsoft!

Originally posted by mm
welp, at least directxbox finally got passed the \'\'mm is a ps2 fanboy stage"  

at any rate



vs  



micro$oft is lucky i dont live in seattle anymore, or i would beat the hardware designers to frickin death with my tired, cramped hands

another pic to anger you

 

MM is a fanboy!   Anyways, I can spot lots of things "wrong" with this Japanese controller.  Japanese gamers must have triple-jointed thumbs.  However, they also like Final Fantasy and other Japanese-style RPG\'s.


****Ack, please remove images when quoting someone.  takes that much longer to load, and eat bandwidth

Originally posted by DirectXbox


I\'m not wrong with saying that the DualShock sucks and you\'re not wrong with saying that the Xbox pad sucks.  It\'s just that you\'ve been playing the PSX longer and are used to it.  In fact, you\'ve been playing with small Japanese controllers all of your life, so of course the larger Xbox pad is difficult for you to adjust to.  I don\'t think I\'m a freak because I don\'t like the DualShock, it\'s just too small and I can\'t remember where those alien symbols on the buttons are.  With X, Y, A, B, at least I know that there is a universal button placement, but there\'s none of that for Sony\'s convoluted design.  The Xbox controller is just fine, so fine that I got whipped by a 6 year old in DoA3.  He\'s small for his age and he held the controller just fine.  The same was true with his 10 year old brother and my 10 year old cousin.  I repeatedly asked them, "Is the controller too big?"  And they said, no and continued playing.  None of them complained about the controller size.  It\'s only an issue to hard core gamers since it\'s not what they\'re used to.  Microsoft was smart not to listen to the hardcore gamers and go with the data they already had.  Because ultimately, it\'s the casual gaming crowd--the crowd that has no problem with the Xbox controller--will make or break the Xbox.  

Get used to it.  You\'ve been treated like a Japanese gamer so long until you actually believe it\'s the "right" way to do things.  Keep an open mind.   The "right" thing isn\'t always what you\'re used to or what most people are used to.  I\'m glad Microsoft realized this and gathered their own data:  American and Japanese gamers shouldn\'t be treated the same.

I didn\'t say the XBOX controller sucks, I said it was uncomfortable.
It was hard to use, but it was still playable.

I\'ve been treated like a Japanese player all my life? What system did you have before XBOX? I\'m willing to bet that it was a Japanese company that made those previous systems. I should be able to get used to using the XBOX controller as fast as you did then. Because we both have been playing Japanese systems all our life.

The N64 pad, IMO, was a bigger controller than the XBOX controller, and it was made by a Japanese company. This whole "Big controller" thing isn\'t new. Both controllers are very uncomfortable, IMO. But, overall, the XBOX pad is better.

Just face it, some people dislike the XBOX pad, some people like it.

i was the one that said it SUCKS!
i\'ll keep saying it untill my japenese one arrives, or this dandy unit that makes me so happy!

With the Joybox Converter you can connect any PlayStation or even PlayStation2 joypad to your Xbox console. It supports vibration function plus features a memory card slot for saving game data.

Originally posted by DirectXbox


MM is a fanboy!   Anyways, I can spot lots of things "wrong" with this Japanese controller.  Japanese gamers must have triple-jointed thumbs.  However, they also like Final Fantasy and other Japanese-style RPG\'s.


****Ack, please remove images when quoting someone.  takes that much longer to load, and eat bandwidth

The only problems I see is that the black and white buttons are simply too low and the color doesn\'t match the XBOX.

Originally posted by Soul Reaver


I didn\'t say the XBOX controller sucks, I said it was uncomfortable.
It was hard to use, but it was still playable.

I\'ve been treated like a Japanese player all my life? What system did you have before XBOX? I\'m willing to bet that it was a Japanese company that made those previous systems. I should be able to get used to using the XBOX controller as fast as you did then. Because we both have been playing Japanese systems all our life.

The N64 pad, IMO, was a bigger controller than the XBOX controller, and it was made by a Japanese company. This whole "Big controller" thing isn\'t new. Both controllers are very uncomfortable, IMO. But, overall, the XBOX pad is better.

Just face it, some people dislike the XBOX pad, some people like it.

I had to adjust to the Xbox controller also, albiet more quickly than others.  I also realized that I had been conditioned by the Japanese too and I had to correct my viewpoint on things.  I have already accepted the fact that everyone won\'t like the Xbox pad and that\'s fine.  However, there are those who will suck it up and get used to it and then there are those who will ***** and complain and never want to get used to it (MM).  There\'s nothing wrong with that.  However, if you\'re human, your highly advanced brain should be able to synthesize the Xbox controller and button layout and then you\'ll get used to it just like you got used to your other consoles.

Clyde on the other hand might want to stick with the Dual Shock and Dual Shock 2 which were designed for chimps by chimps.

Originally posted by DirectXbox


...and I can\'t remember where those alien symbols on the buttons are.  With X, Y, A, B, at least I know that there is a universal button placement, but there\'s none of that for Sony\'s convoluted design.

This has been argued here at some length before. What I find amusing is when people commonly refer to the top-facing button orientation, of the DS2, as being placed in a confusing and  "illogical" fashion, when in reality it\'s only 4 buttons. Correct me if I\'m wrong, but that is some steep learning curve. Sheesh. Guess we are in real trouble when 10 digit phone numbers become a reality for everyone.

Originally posted by Zavijava


This has been argued here at some length before. What I find amusing is when people commonly refer to the top-facing button orientation, of the DS2, as being placed in a confusing and  "illogical" fashion, when in reality it\'s only 4 buttons. Correct me if I\'m wrong, but that is some steep learning curve. Sheesh. Guess we are in real trouble when 10 digit phone numbers become a reality for everyone.

That\'s why I didn\'t even bother to say anything about it in my post.

Seriously, who still looks at the controller to see if it\'s a triangle or a square or if it\'s an A or a B?

I don\'t have to look for the A and B buttons, but if I would have problems with the Dual Shock since I\'m not familiar with the layout.  It is by no means intuitive like the ABXY scheme.  When I\'m playing a fighting game, I think the symbol inscribed on the buttons become VERY important.  As seasoned Dual Shock players its second nature to you guys, but to someone not familiar with it, it takes getting used to just like the Xbox controller.

Originally posted by DirectXbox
I don\'t have to look for the A and B buttons, but if I would have problems with the Dual Shock since I\'m not familiar with the layout.  It is by no means intuitive like the ABXY scheme.  When I\'m playing a fighting game, I think the symbol inscribed on the buttons become VERY important.  As seasoned Dual Shock players its second nature to you guys, but to someone not familiar with it, it takes getting used to just like the Xbox controller.

Heh

Fair enough. It\'s your opinion.

LOL

Look at what I found.

Only thing I don\'t like about the X-box controller is all those buttons are too damn close together.  I can\'t hit the right buttons on DOA3.

My suggestion to everyone is check out the Madcatz Controller, its smaller, the buttons are spaced out, and its built sturdy

yeah, sturdy to break after 13.87 hours of usage

You mean 13.86 man.