Sooners LOOSE!

And tradition.  A lot of the bowls have been around for a long time, and a lot of people see it as a part of what college football is.  Hell, we didn\'t even have a championship game until recently.

I just don\'t like how the NFL\'s playoffs are set up at all.  You could possibly do it right but I don\'t have to much against the way it is right now.  And having one loss doesn\'t make you a goner.  That is unless you still have amazing teams that stay undefeated.

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If Ohio State gets one loss I think you will feel differently cause I guarantee you Oklahoma would jump OSU

I know teams will jump them if they lose.  I just don\'t see how a playoff would work with how things are setup right now.  Their would have to be major adjustments.

Washington St. would be the one playing Miami as of right now, if OSU loses.

Anyone else think that in all honesty, the best game would be Iowa vs. Miami?

Don\'t forgot WSU loses points if OSU loses though.

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My god, you have to ba a total math geek to figure this shit out.

Just play some fizucking ball on the freaking field!!!

I wonder just how many teams have their hopes for a NC crushed by that first loss of the season.I wonder how many more losses that leads too.You see what I mean.Some teams already gone 8-0 with visions of a NC game dancing in their head,then boom,they run into a that  one game that just kind of happens in college football.Then after that they just can\'t get up for the next game.EX.I believe this is what happened to FSU after the loss to luisiville.

Man their just college kids,but they\'ve got the pressure of a perfect season on them.Basicly that\'s what it comes down to in college football,if you don\'t have a perfect season you\'re not going to play for a NC.

Yes, WSU loses a little in strength of schedule, but not that much.  Oklahoma is behind them by too much for that to make a difference.

Originally posted by shockwaves
Washington St. would be the one playing Miami as of right now, if OSU loses.

Anyone else think that in all honesty, the best game would be Iowa vs. Miami?

Wrong. The only thing keeping WSU in the 3 spot is Ohio State. OSU loses, and WSU goes tumbling with them, as does their stregnth of schedule. If Ohio State loses, Oklahoma would go to the National Title game. Reason? Washington State has that loss holding them up, and Ohio State gets .8 taken off for that WSU win. The polls would drop Ohio State to about 7th or 8th with a loss, dropping WSU\'s stregnth of schedule, which isn\'t great anyway. Besides, in all likelihood, Oklahoma\'s goona play, and kill, Colorado again, so who knows. Then again, that\'s in all likelihood. Can\'t forget last year.

Iowa vs. Miami - would be the best matchup anyway, no matter what Ohio State finishes.

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Originally posted by ROL Jamas



Iowa vs. Miami - would be the best matchup anyway, no matter what Ohio State finishes.

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Oh Brad Banks,  yes,  he would do good vs Miami,  probably as good or better then Oklahoma


Look,  in sports certain teams matchup against other teams well.  Look at the Bulls of the 90s.  They always struggled vs the Pacers.  Whether the Pacers did well in the season or not the Bulls had problems with them.  Same thing with the Spurs,  if you look it up the Bulls probably split their games with either team through their 6 championships.

What I am saying is that some teams have problems with certain teams.  Oklahoma doesn\'t match up as good with Texas A&M.  They should of lost 2 years ago but a miracle saved them.  THis year it was their corner backs either falling and leaving recievers wide open 40 yards down the field or being fooled by a simple pump by the QB allowing the reciever to get 10 yards ahead of them.

It wasnt anything Texas A&M did to win the game but it was what Oklahoma did.

That\'s bullshit.  You know why the Bulls and Pacers games were close?  It\'s called a heated rivalry.  Those games are different, but it has nothing to do with how the teams matchup.  It\'s all about emotion.  When you get two teams that truly hate eachother, emotion gets involved in the playing of the game.  The better team gets distracted, and the worse team gets motivated.  It can be seen in any sport.  These things don\'t happen where there isn\'t this sort of heat between the teams.

Texas A&M beating Oklahoma had nothing to do with matchups.  I\'ll tell you what it was though.  For A&M, this was a game to look forward to all season.  A game to focus on, to dream about, to prepare for.  So when the game came, they knew exactly what to do, and were extra motivated for it.  Oklahoma, on the other hand, was overlooking this team, and weren\'t as well prepared.  That\'s why upsets happen, and why it\'s so hard to go undefeated.  It was partially about what OU didn\'t do, sure, but it was mainly about what Texas A&M did.  Matchups?  Once again, not a chance.  Hell, how many starters you think the teams still have from two years ago?  It\'s about emotion.

Originally posted by shockwaves

Texas A&M beating Oklahoma had nothing to do with matchups.  I\'ll tell you what it was though.  For A&M, this was a game to look forward to all season.  A game to focus on, to dream about, to prepare for.  So when the game came, they knew exactly what to do, and were extra motivated for it.  Oklahoma, on the other hand, was overlooking this team, and weren\'t as well prepared.  That\'s why upsets happen, and why it\'s so hard to go undefeated.  It was partially about what OU didn\'t do, sure, but it was mainly about what Texas A&M did.  Matchups?  Once again, not a chance.  Hell, how many starters you think the teams still have from two years ago?  It\'s about emotion.

Wrong. A&M and Oklahoma have been playing for 5 years. Before that, they bearly ever played. A&M\'s rivalry game is Texas, forever and always. A&M didn\'t DREAM about this game, they simply put in the better quarterback. McNeil did NOT play against either Nebraska or Oklahoma State. He played against Texas Tech, and threw 7 TD passes. Makes you wonders about Slocum\'s decision making, but that\'s a different story.

Ty Warren was playing this game, who is a huge part of the A&M Defense. Again, he did not play against Nebraska or Oklahoma State. Put him in, sure, Griffin had a good game, but he never got utilized.

Oklahoma\'s offense has been shaky ever since Jason White tore his other ACL. I knew the second that happened that Nate Hybl was not going to take this team to the promised land. Without Jason White, Oklahoma simply isn\'t as good of a team.

Doesn\'t matter about the starters man, that game was lost by A&M 2 years ago. Oklahoma was a more resilient team then, led by some guy named Torrance Marshall (who is being wasted by the Packers right now, by the way). That man was simply a beast, and he is probably the most underrated player in the NFL Today...when I get Madden 2003, he\'s going to be on all the teams I ever have :-D

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Originally posted by ROL Jamas


Wrong. A&M and Oklahoma have been playing for 5 years. Before that, they bearly ever played. A&M\'s rivalry game is Texas, forever and always. A&M didn\'t DREAM about this game, they simply put in the better quarterback. McNeil did NOT play against either Nebraska or Oklahoma State. He played against Texas Tech, and threw 7 TD passes. Makes you wonders about Slocum\'s decision making, but that\'s a different story.

Ty Warren was playing this game, who is a huge part of the A&M Defense. Again, he did not play against Nebraska or Oklahoma State. Put him in, sure, Griffin had a good game, but he never got utilized.

Oklahoma\'s offense has been shaky ever since Jason White tore his other ACL. I knew the second that happened that Nate Hybl was not going to take this team to the promised land. Without Jason White, Oklahoma simply isn\'t as good of a team.

Doesn\'t matter about the starters man, that game was lost by A&M 2 years ago. Oklahoma was a more resilient team then, led by some guy named Torrance Marshall (who is being wasted by the Packers right now, by the way). That man was simply a beast, and he is probably the most underrated player in the NFL Today...when I get Madden 2003, he\'s going to be on all the teams I ever have :-D

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Yes, Texas is a bigger game.  But are you telling me there isn\'t a team in the country that doesn\'t get pumped up when they play the current #1?  And are you telling me that the #1 will always be pumped to play Texas A&M?  If so, I\'ll laugh at you.  If not, then that\'s my point.

And your last paragraph...that\'s my point.  These are different teams from when they met two years ago.  They would match up differently, and have different strengths and weaknesses than they did 2 years ago.

I wouldn\'t say that. Kyle Field is still there, the Wrecking Crew is still there...A&M finally found a quarterback. Only difference.

Oklahoma\'s team from 2 years ago wasn\'t much different, they just had a better offense. The defenses are about the same (Torrance Marshall, Roy Wiliams, Rocky Calmus, etc). You\'d be surprised as to how many Oklahoma Starters right now were starters on that team 2 years ago. Savage, Wollfolk, Griffin, etc.

Oh, and get back on AIM. Slut...I proposed a rather large trade to Vid in the fantasy league.

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