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« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2005, 10:36:39 AM »
PS2 seems to work alot better with -R format DVDs. I\'ve yet to have my ps2 not read any movies i have on -r dvds.
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« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2005, 03:15:12 PM »
-r > +r
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« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2005, 09:43:55 PM »
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-r > +r


lately i been buying +R more than -R.  Also, its pretty much the same once you just change it booktype setting before burning to DVD-ROM with just a click on a button.

Look, DVD+R DL has been out for about year now, and DVD-R DL hasn\'t been out yet.  And most new dvd burners released in the last month have a burn speed of 4x for DVD+R DL while the -R DL isn\'t out yet even though the spec for -R has been finalized for a few months...

not to mention late last year when i see the majority of burners  that support 16x single layer for DVD+Rs but only support DVD-R burnt at 8x max, then later models the -R finally catch up and goes to 12x, and finally 16x.

The "+" media is ahead of the competition in term of speed and format suport.  Although most consumer buy "-" media more because that\'s is the standard made by DVDForum and have the most compatibility with DVD players.

Me, personally prefer the + over the -.

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« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2005, 10:47:47 PM »
and yet you\'re complaining about having problems with it
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« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2005, 12:19:23 AM »
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and yet you\'re complaining about having problems with it


sigh, I have problem with both actually.  some media i burned before with the older firmware does have problem with compatibility.  Doesn\'t matter pluses or minuses.  the older firmware only like a few media that its burn really good at.  while most of the other media, it burn a very good quality but have some spikes, either from the beginning of the disc or near the end.

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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2005, 12:59:28 AM »
whether u believe it or not, DVD-R is more compatible with the ps2/dvd player then +R even with the booktype changed.  I\'d personally only use +R when i need to backup information.
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« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2005, 02:58:44 AM »
hmm,

my experience is different.  Back in september when i first have my dvd burner, i tried Sony 4x +Rs and TDK 4x +Rs.  That time, I didn\'t know anything about "remanufacture", neither does I know about changing booktype.

And pretty much all of those discs i burned are all playable on my playStation 2 and on my 4 1/2 years old sony dvd player.

But the minuses media is a different story.  I tried TDK 4x -Rs, it was not readable on my picky ps2.  Later, I tried Sony 4x -Rs, as you can see.  Same thing, unreadable on my ps2.

That time, I thought maybe my playstation 2 likes the + media more, since I know nothing about how to test the quality of the disc.  Its not until this late February I realized the true reasons why.

I found out that my Sony 4x +R is actually were manufacture from Ricoh and my TDK 4x +Rs were manufacture from CMC Magnetic as it was revealed by the test software program KProbe, and later Nero CD/DVD.  And the Sony and TDK 4x -Rs and even their 8x -Rs are actually manufacture by them.  They only manufacture the "-" media while they bought off the + media from other manufacturer.

But how come only the + work on my ps2, but not the minus.  Recently, after I updated my firmware late last month, I found out that my specific model dvd burner burns better at the "+" media than the "-".  As if Lite On concentrate on improving burned quality more on the + than on the - for my burner...

Some disc that i tested back from TDK 4x +Rs and Sony 4x +Rs, or shall i say Ricoh and CMC Magnetic 4x+Rs show great results, as good as Hollywood Pressed DVD.  No wonder my ps2 doesn\'t have problems playing them.  The minuses on the other hands, burn quality is good but not consistent across the disc, but some are okay, because there are quite some errors and failures to high for my ps2 to tolerate.

So, its not true that the DVD-R is more compatible with the ps2, its really depends on the burned quality.

From what I read on the internet, so far, most dvd players play fine with either format.  And all DVD players play fine when the DVD+R is changed to DVD-ROM.  Its read the disc as a DVD-ROM format like commerical dvds.  If a dvd player doesn\'t read DVD-ROM booktype, then it won\'t read any commercial dvds at all from the studios.

I guess why you have better lucks with the - media is because the model of your burner burns better with the "-" media than the "+".

When DVD+R DL become more mainstreams and when it dropped it prices down to much more reasonable price, I be sure to buy them and I believe my burner will works great on them and not to mention i will changed it booktype.  

Right now, I am waiting patiently till Verbatim dropped it prices of 3 discs of DVD+R DL down like $5 or less.  Now, they are sold at $25 for only 3 discs at most retail stores and I found one from CompUSA selling it for $20....expensive...

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« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2005, 03:03:44 AM »
odd, because i have a Sohw-812S flashed to a 832S and it\'s alwasy been able to burn -R dvds without any problems in both DVD players and ps2s. I\'ve tested these discs in over 5 different DVD players and god only knows how many ps2s they\'ve gone through. Only ever had 1 dvd player have problems and that was simply because the lens was coated in dust.
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« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2005, 03:21:20 AM »
the firmware you have is different than mine I suppose.  Your firmware is hard to get as I  don\'t find them in a couple of internet sites i check, because the firmware you flash actually change your burner from 812S to 832S which the biggest different is that it support burning DVD+R DL 2.4x speed...

If you want, update the firmware from VSO_ to VSOG.  But i am not sure if that will works since your burner is different, but since its now a 832S.  I guess, it shouldn\'t be a problem....*shrugs*...

if you have any question to where you can get the firmware, got to liteoamerica.com or something, or i could link you a couple of internet sites have link or download to the latest firmware updates from a majority of burners, especially "Brand" Names such as Lite-On, Plextor, Philips, Pioneer, NEC, LG, Sony, etc....these brand names updated their firmwares frequently for their burners.
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« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2005, 05:18:03 AM »
errrrr dood, i know where to get firmware updates. But they have built in eeprom scanners that detect what your burner model is and that stops u from updating to other models.  I wanted DL, the only difference between the 832S and 812S is the firmware, the hardware itself is pretty much identical.  The firmware i\'m running you can\'t get at the normal liteon firmware update site/s.
CG5G is a hacked firmware, which i\'m running and is improved over the VSOG update..

You can get it here
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« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2005, 06:34:59 AM »
whoa,

guess like i learn something new everyday.  Well, the CG5G changes your burner from 812 to 832.  how about the version of it.  You know the letters after 832S.  Does it read as VSOG?

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« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2005, 06:36:49 AM »
It reads  Lite-On DVDRW SOHW-832S CG5G
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