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Offline Blade
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« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2006, 09:22:37 AM »
Are you dissing the Metal Gear franchise, as started in 1987? Or MGS?

Metal Gear was the first stealth game of that variety. When I say that MGS is nothing new, I\'m saying it\'s a sequel.

Has the stealth genre been done before, and better? Hell yeah, in some respects. Mostly by sequels to MGS and far newer games, though. Which, of course, are also revered. I love Splinter Cell. I love Thief.
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« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2006, 10:33:07 AM »
My opinion is more factual than your opinion.
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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2006, 11:04:44 AM »
MGS, it sucked.

Wanna know what else sucks?
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« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2006, 12:44:01 PM »
I don\'t know about that one. :)
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« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2006, 01:31:12 PM »
i\'m not sure that mgs sucks,..i know when i bought it for psx back in 97, i thought it was one of the hottest games out, and for that time it was something truly innovational...fast forward some years later,...i did happen to purchase mgs 3, and while i did like the story and pretty graphics, for me it was a bit of a chore to play...why?.. the gameplay...the gameplay hasn\'t changed much from the that psx game in 97....it was a good game, but i ended up trading it in...if the series can freshen up the gameplay in the next series, maybe i\'ll support the franchise again...
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2006, 03:00:23 PM »
:rofl:, lic
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« Reply #36 on: September 05, 2006, 04:54:15 AM »
Quote from: clips
i\'m not sure that mgs sucks,..i know when i bought it for psx back in 97, i thought it was one of the hottest games out, and for that time it was something truly innovational...fast forward some years later,...i did happen to purchase mgs 3, and while i did like the story and pretty graphics, for me it was a bit of a chore to play...why?.. the gameplay...the gameplay hasn\'t changed much from the that psx game in 97....it was a good game, but i ended up trading it in...if the series can freshen up the gameplay in the next series, maybe i\'ll support the franchise again...


What are you talking about? The survival and camoflauge systmes are the biggest changes in MGS since it became 3D.

Sure the core movement and such hasn\'t changed, but how you play the game has. Not to mention the removal of a radar (though optional in the first two) required more instinctive and visual methods of survival.

The only thing I could think of that needed to be improved was camera manipulation and gun aiming. Which I\'m sure were improved in Substinance. Camera at least was drastically. Not having played it, I\'m not sure about the latter. Given the nature of the game, though, I don\'t think they wanted you to be shooting too much, though.

And Metal Gear Solid had a plethora of small innovations. As did the sequals.  But then again, a lot of games feature small innovations. However, when the original Metal Gear was released, it had a major innovation (the introduction of a stealth element).

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« Reply #37 on: September 05, 2006, 09:56:53 AM »
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What are you talking about? The survival and camoflauge systmes are the biggest changes in MGS since it became 3D.

Sure the core movement and such hasn\'t changed, but how you play the game has. Not to mention the removal of a radar (though optional in the first two) required more instinctive and visual methods of survival.

The only thing I could think of that needed to be improved was camera manipulation and gun aiming. Which I\'m sure were improved in Substinance. Camera at least was drastically. Not having played it, I\'m not sure about the latter. Given the nature of the game, though, I don\'t think they wanted you to be shooting too much, though.

And Metal Gear Solid had a plethora of small innovations. As did the sequals.  But then again, a lot of games feature small innovations. However, when the original Metal Gear was released, it had a major innovation (the introduction of a stealth element).


i agree with mostly everything you stated, but i guess my biggest problem from mgs 3 was the camera...maybe i\'ll rent substinance to see how much of an improvement it is...
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« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2006, 03:15:44 AM »
I\'ll be trying out Saint\'s Row this week. Got it as a birthday present.
 
I want to finish Yakuza first, though. Despite its shortcomings, that game has a story that really sucks you in. I want to see how it turns out. And the main character is pretty bad ass.
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