Pope shouldn\'t have apologized to the Muslims.

[Evi]

They\'re taught hatred since birth. It\'s really quite frightening. Seeing mass hordes of people screaming "Death To America!" or "Death To Israel" deeply disturbs me. And the little girls begging for weapons so they can "kill every last Jew" is just...yeah. You gotta watch the documentary. You\'ll be like "holy fuck" the entire time. And it\'s not these kids\' fault. It\'s the stupid fucks that teach them hatred all their life. These people have no mercy when it comes to killing. Hatred, it seems, is all they know. And now they\'re spouting that bullshit over there of "convert to Islam or die"...

my pc at work wanted me to download the player to view it, but i don\'t download anything on this pc

Dude, it\'s just QuickTime. But like you said, it\'s a work PC, so I don\'t know what they allow on their computers.

[GmanJoe]

whelp i don\'t know what he said, but if he did say something rather insulting about the religion, he needs to apologize, we all know that for the most part that those that study islam are not violent, only the extremists....it\'s all about respect. even tho some in the muslim world do overreact whenever these scenarios pop up, he did the right thing by apologizing. i never understood why so-many praise the pope anyway, i mean i respect he\'s a holy person and all, but why are thousands maybe millions of people fainting and crying when they see him? he\'s just a human being like you or I....same goes for people who think the preacher at church has all the answers for their problems...they don\'t...they can provide assistance and some guidance for your problems and that\'s it...

He really didn\'t say anything insulting, he was quoting a medeival Byzantine Emperor who was fighting against the Muslims. To paraphrase, Mohammed used violence and the sword to convert people to Islam....which was true.

USAToday: [COLOR="Red"]The pontiff, speaking in St. Peter\'s Square under tighter-than-usual security prompted by threats, said he quoted a 14th-century letter to encourage interfaith dialogue, not spark controversy. The letter written by an emperor said the prophet Mohammed\'s teachings brought things "evil and inhuman" and he "spread by the sword the faith he preached."[/COLOR]

However, to start a speech like that wasn\'t very diplomatic. It\'s not the Pope\'s opinion....he was quoting someone else.

However, the Pope should have known that millions of Muslims around the world are easily baited into rioting just from cartoons or bringing up the past about Islam. One can bring up atrocities by Christians and you bet there won\'t be riots or mosques being burnt down.

[clips]

^^^but c\'mon gman to read something like that and not expect some type of backlash?..:rolleyes:..clearly he was indirectly calling islam evil...."well uh i didn\'t say it,but this emperor did"...like the old saying goes, if you have nothing nice to say, don\'t say it at all,..and this was not the forum to start such a debate...

Interesting that you \'expect\' a backlash now for verbal critisizm of Islam.  I also wonder how many people expected this kind of backlash, with riots, murders, threats - if this is \'expected\' backlash then there is something to what the quote says about Islam.

I don\'t expect the same reaction from Christians, buddhists, hindus, etc. every time they are insulted by some prominent Mullah or by some quote about how violent and horrific they acted in the past (crusades, wars).  

Really says something about the religions when expectations live up to or down to themselves.

[clips]

Interesting that you \'expect\' a backlash now for verbal critisizm of Islam.  I also wonder how many people expected this kind of backlash, with riots, murders, threats - if this is \'expected\' backlash then there is something to what the quote says about Islam.

I don\'t expect the same reaction from Christians, buddhists, hindus, etc. every time they are insulted by some prominent Mullah or by some quote about how violent and horrific they acted in the past (crusades, wars).  

Really says something about the religions when expectations live up to or down to themselves.

well i already mentioned how some muslims overreact when this happens,...my thing is that, every prominent religious leader, not just the pope, needs to respect each others religion. Now i really don\'t know who the top dog is in other religions, but clearly the pope is one of the top dogs in the catholic field, and he kinda stepped outta line by sayin that. it\'s ok for the little people underneath these religions to spout which religion is better and such, because that will always happen, but i feel as one of the leaders in any religion, you need to teach your own beliefs, while respecting others...that goes for ANY religious leader...

[Evi]

my thing is that, every prominent religious leader, not just the pope, needs to respect each others religion.

"Convert to Islam or die" is not respectful of other religions. And when the President of Iran himself is encouraging "death to Israel", something is wrong here.

These are funny.









various other satirical cartoons on this issue

Sometimes a picture really is worth a thousand words.

[Evi]

It\'s funny, yet frightening.

[GmanJoe]

Amazing that my retort was already in the post you were replying to.

^^^but c\'mon gman to read something like that and not expect some type of backlash?..:rolleyes:..clearly he was indirectly calling islam evil...."well uh i didn\'t say it,but this emperor did"...like the old saying goes, if you have nothing nice to say, don\'t say it at all,..and this was not the forum to start such a debate...

However, to start a speech like that wasn\'t very diplomatic. It\'s not the Pope\'s opinion....he was quoting someone else.

However, the Pope should have known that millions of Muslims around the world are easily baited into rioting just from cartoons or bringing up the past about Islam. One can bring up atrocities by Christians and you bet there won\'t be riots or mosques being burnt down.

I think the Pope did have a slightly hidden agenda. Bait the Muslims into riots...that way Islamic leaders will say, "You know what? WE ARE VIOLENT! Let\'s talk."

[Titan]

These are funny.









various other satirical cartoons on this issue

Sometimes a picture really is worth a thousand words.

Humerous and yet so true.