Pope shouldn\'t have apologized to the Muslims.

[GmanJoe]

It\'s okay for the Muslims to call on the deaths of Christians but not okay for the Pope to quote a medeival leader about the invading Muslims? It wasn\'t even his opinion. Shouldn\'t have apologized.

Now millions of Muslims are rallying for the death of the Pope. Several churches have already been attacked.

Perhaps an 8th Crusade should be called in?

b/c christians are sooo non-violent themselves right?

ANybody that wants to be die for religion or kill someone else for religion should be put on an island to have at it. then bomb the shit out of the winner...

dont forget to televise it and everyone wins.

[GmanJoe]

Muslims have been stuck in their mindset where Christians were 500 or more years ago.

All this outrage is just another reason for Fundementalist Muslims to preach for the downfall of the West.

"Um, about all those people we killed... uh... yeah, sorry bout that."
 
Nothing wrong with apologizing. You don\'t even have to mean it.  Learned that on the Simpsons.
 
Sorry! I swear!

Gman has a good point.  Islam is stuck in the 1400\'s... I mean look at them:

Danish Cartoons - RIOT!!!!
Pope\'s Remarks - RIOT!!!!
The sun rises - RIOT!!!!

Seriously though, the Pope\'s remarks have proven to be accurate about Islam.  Luckee you can not compare present day Christians with these people.  Look at Ahmadinejad\'s speech in the UN yesterday - quite frankly its damn scary.  

"I am emphatically declare that today\'s world more than ever before longs for just and righteous people with love for all humanity, and above all longs for the perfect, righteous human being and the real savior who has been promised to all peoples and who will establish justice, peace and brotherhood on the planet. [The Twelfth Imam] Oh Almighty God, all men and women are your creatures and you have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirst for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by you, and make us among his followers among those who strive for his return and his cause."

If you don\'t know the coming of the 12th Imam according to Islam is supposed to signify the end of the world.  Who knows - maybe this nut thinks he is the 12th Imam. :eek:  What is even scarier is that fact he got a standing ovation from the General Assembly.  This guy is pushing for a war and he just might get it if he continues down the path he is on now.

Now Chavez is calling Bush the devil... :rolleyes:

Good column in the NY Times

It\'s almost laughable.  In a quote from the distant past the pope says that basically Islam is violent and spread by the sword.  In response?  Muslims demand a retraction, conversion by the pope to Islam, or they bring out the sword.

Good column in the NY Times

It\'s almost laughable.  In a quote from the distant past the pope says that basically Islam is violent and spread by the sword.  In response?  Muslims demand a retraction, conversion by the pope to Islam, or they bring out the sword.

Exactly - I think that Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Palaeologus was absolutely right.

Seriously though, the Pope\'s remarks have proven to be accurate about Islam.  Luckee you can not compare present day Christians with these people.

I can\'t compare? At least once a year somewhere in the country, an abortion clinic gets blown up or set on fire by these nuts.  

Now Chavez is calling Bush the devil... :rolleyes:

Bush is the Devil

Besides the odd abortion clinic - what else do they do?  Behead people?  Suicide bombings?  Fly planes into buildings?  Stop apoligizing for Islamic fundamentalism - it is nowhere near the same as Christian fundamentalism.  You are trying to compare apples and oranges.

Bush is the devil?  Only according to banana republic dicators, Islamic fundamentalists and the deranged left.

So you\'re comparing a once a year violent act of arson against property with the daily attacks/responses now associated with Muslim extremists?  The murder of elderly nuns?

Where are the Christian murders, threats, riots, protests, arsons in response to Madonna spoofing the crucifiction?

Some muslims are not afraid to speak out:
perhaps if violence continues after the pope\'s apology, we deserve the remarks

An open letter from an arabic American - This one is particularily good.

Besides the odd abortion clinic - what else do they do?  Behead people?  Suicide bombings?  Fly planes into buildings?  Stop apoligizing for Islamic fundamentalism - it is nowhere near the same as Christian fundamentalism.  You are trying to compare apples and oranges.

Bush is the devil?  Only according to banana republic dicators, Islamic fundamentalists and the deranged left.

Odd? some years they hit 5-10 clinics. They are just as nutty in their beliefs as those muslims.

You point out where i apologized..... I dont give a shit about them.

I was comparing two nutty religions as they do have some similarities that exsist between the extremes some members of each are willing to go "in the name of god"

As far as Bush..he is a devil to everyone not on his side. He is finally losing his party members as well. I think that says alot. You wanna talk about bush a little..keep it on hold..Im starting another thread.

So you\'re comparing a once a year violent act of arson against property with the daily attacks/responses now associated with Muslim extremists?  The murder of elderly nuns?

Where are the Christian murders, threats, riots, protests, arsons in response to Madonna spoofing the crucifiction?

Some muslims are not afraid to speak out:
perhaps if violence continues after the pope\'s apology, we deserve the remarks

An open letter from an arabic American - This one is particularily good.

Thats fine that muslims extremists probably far outnumber christian extremists. The fact they do commit more attrocities. I dont like either group so all of this arguing is beyond any point someone wants to make.

And get your facts straight before you post your opinion on the prevalence of attacks on abortion clinics.

Article with ACTUAL NUMBERS for attacks, threats, murders, arsons, etc.  From 1989 to 2004.  Note the decline?

Simple fact is extremists cause problems wherever they are, but you will find that muslims commit atrocities against \'outsiders\' in muslim countries that ARE NOT mirrored in non-muslim countries against muslims.  I\'ve yet to read about an elderly muslim missionary being dragged from his mosque into the street and shot in the back in Wisconsin.

Thats fine that muslims extremists probably far outnumber christian extremists. The fact they do commit more attrocities. I dont like either group so all of this arguing is beyond any point someone wants to make.

Probably?  Probably?  What reality are you living in?  Your blind hatred for Christianity sickens me.  The fact that you would rather turn a debate about Islam into one about Christianity shows how clueless you are in regards to the situation threating the world today.  Here is a clue Christianity and the US are not the number one threat to stability in the world.  I know you hate both, so why do I even bother trying to point out the obvious?

I said it happens every year..where was I incorrect? Except for possibly 05 and 06 which isnt shown.

MAybe i was incorrect when I said some years they hit 5-10 clinics...

oh wait..no not then either.