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Offline Joker
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2009, 05:54:15 AM »
Yeah the town halls have been better than any action movie that came out this summer. Fuck District 9, the real carnage is on CNN when they cover all these town hall riots.
I\'ve just sat in front of the TV with popcorn and hand lotion all summer watching the riots and its been awesome. All this violence and entertainment AND FOR FREE. A cool thing about being Canadian is you get a front row seat for American riots (our riots only involve hockey or the french, both are lame) and thankfully the town hall riots haven\'t dissapointed. I wonder if these rioters who go to the riots have insurance for riot related injuries.









EDIT: Fuck! all those pics I just realized are from Europe :( I\'m trying to find some from the town hall riots. But until I do just trust me...people have died, women have been raped, children trampled to death in the rush of people to the microphone to be heard. Its bad man, its really bad. But its also really awesome. This never would of happened with an Asian president.
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2009, 05:56:43 AM »
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And here\'s a "Representative" who states he would go against his constituents even if it was 80/20 in favor of rejecting the bill. Isn\'t a representatives job to represent his people? Not just push his own agenda?

I would say so, although elected officials have felt both ways on that one for hundreds of years. "People elected me to use my judgement." vs. "I\'m here to do what the people wish me to do."
 
I prefer the latter, too, in theory. But if I were elected, I\'d want to use my own judgement, I bet, so it\'s a close call for me. Guess it depends on whether or not I agree with the guy, heh.
 
And Joker, there are way too many idiots roaming around. I see them where I live too. Gangs are shooting each other in the middle of our tourist areas now. Yippee.
 
Look at this link, people bringing pistols and automatic rifles to political protests because "we\'ve still got some freedoms here". Like getting health care is akin to slavery. It\'s just ridiculous. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090817/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_protesters_guns
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2009, 06:52:33 AM »
You just sumed up everything i was going say....reps do listen to their constituents, but they also have to use their judgement in what they feel will produce the best outcome....and yes it was truly idiotic for those losers to bring guns while the prez was there for a meeting on healthcare.....all you heard from those idiots was "it\'s our god given right to bear arms"..:rolleyes:...s**t the f**k up....regardless of what political party you stand with, it was wrong for those a$$holes to show up with guns...even if it was legal.
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2009, 06:59:26 AM »
Do Americans at least think its good that your country is engaging each other in a debate like this?

As an outside observer I think its a positive. I don\'t remember Americans really debating one another on various issues like this when Bush was your president. Obviously the two wars, sept 11, Katrina dominate debates about Bush. But it always felt like it was a debate played out in the media.

These days  it seems like the citizens of the US are much more involved. I think its a good thing but then again i\'m not the one living there :P
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 08:41:14 AM »
I agree, more people involved is a good thing. Obama is good at publicizing what he\'s doing and since they\'re such big things, he\'s getting a lot of people talking.
 
There\'s a difference between being involved or opinionated and being a nutjob, though, and our media is finding lots of crazies to point cameras at, which doesn\'t really help anything.
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2009, 11:26:17 AM »
That is how it always is.

Like when the local  news covers some sort of murder or dog attack. There can be 50 educated people in the area to interview and the news crew will always find that one ghetto fucker or crackhead to do the interview.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2009, 12:22:00 PM »
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I would say so, although elected officials have felt both ways on that one for hundreds of years. "People elected me to use my judgement." vs. "I\'m here to do what the people wish me to do."
 
I prefer the latter, too, in theory. But if I were elected, I\'d want to use my own judgement, I bet, so it\'s a close call for me. Guess it depends on whether or not I agree with the guy, heh.
In case anyone was wondering, it\'s called "leadership."  There have been many important policy changes in our history that were not popular with the public.  They became a reality because we had visionary leaders who were prepared to make the right decision, not the popular decision.
 
If we\'re not interested in leadership, then Congress is unnecessary.  We can just invest in a home voting system, and the electorate can give a yes or no vote on every single issue.  It shouldn\'t be hard to deduce how that would turn out.
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2009, 04:46:40 PM »
Controversy creates cash - this is exactly what the media wants.
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