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Offline shockwaves
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2002, 06:22:02 PM »
Well, here\'s the thing.  You aren\'t taking the software from them.  You are just not allowing them to use it on a seperate network.  The general gaming population, in my experience, looks down on cheating.  Besides, don\'t most of these online things have a set of rules and regulations you have to agree to?  I know bnet does.  If someone agrees to follow those rules, then knowingly breaks them, then of course you can ban him.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2002, 06:29:09 PM »
I don\'t know if most of them have a ToS (terms of service) or not. I would imagine they do though and if so, than if you violate it , I see nothing wrong with banning people. I think my main point is, does anyone think if companies started banning cheaters that people would be upset?

Honestly, I think if you ban the cheaters, online gaming wouldn\'t be near as popular. Just my opinion. Than again, everytime I\'ve played online, almost everyone cheated. Go figure.

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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2002, 06:46:32 PM »
I think only the cheaters would be upset, and I wouldn\'t care about them anyway :)
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2002, 08:07:19 PM »
I think online play would be far less popular if you allowed cheaters to run amok instead of banning them. Sure you\'re going to loose those customers who cheat.. but you\'re gaining a ton more who only didn\'t wanna go online because they feared their save files would get corrupted.. or didn\'t wanna put up with the hassle of dodging cheaters.

The question is.. how do you catch cheaters. Ok, so people aren\'t allowed to cheat online.. but are allowed to online. What\'s to stop someone from loading up on hacked or harmful items offline and then bringing them online? I think it\'s gotta be an across the board thing. If the game\'s online.. don\'t cheat. Period. Most companies have rules against reverse engineering their software.. and changing hex addresses or adding patches is doing exactly that. They\'re jus hard to catch offline.

Ok.. so now how do you actually catch them? Detect cheat devices upon logging into the server? That doesn\'t always work, and people create work-arounds. Patch the servers? That doesn\'t always work either as people make work arounds for the patches. Ban cheaters outright? Heh.. that hasn\'t worked either. People are (for some ungodly reason) are still willing to take the risk. Often times, they have work arounds to avoid or dodge bannings.

God knows I don\'t have the answer.. cause if I did I\'d be selling it to Capcom, Sega, Square, EA.. ect and making a fortune. I do know that, expecially with consoles, it\'s going to be a long struggle and there will be a LOT of trial and error along the way.
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« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2002, 03:40:26 PM »
ban cheaters or seperate them on entirely different servers. That way, people who want to have fun playing legit can do so and people who wanna have fun cheating can also do so.

I haven\'t had too many bad online experiences and would love to play more, but time is sparse nowadays. I was only cheated against in PSO a few times and never in NFL2K1 on DC. I hope it stays that way when 2K3 goes up in November on the box. Online play is the ONLY way to find decent competition, especially since now they post win/loss/disconnect records with every player.


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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2002, 03:49:15 AM »
I have yet to experience the "joys" of online gaming. That includes pc and consoles.

Lucky me eh!

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2002, 04:42:51 AM »
I\'ll be going online with my consoles mainly to play people I know.  

I\'ll test the waters with people I don\'t know tho.  :)

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« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2002, 07:45:12 AM »
The thing is, once I played online, I can\'t play the computer again. It seems so boring....

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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2002, 09:29:12 AM »
SOCOM has a ToS agreement that pops up that you have to agree to EVERY time you go to play on the servers.  However, Socom has no CD key and those people with dynamic IPs (just about everyone) can probably just disconnect and reconnect and sign up with a new name and get back online.  I don\'t see what\'s stopping them.
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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2002, 09:32:00 AM »
not exactly true, ryu

being that socom is broadband only, those connections do not change thier IP\'s that frequently.  cable users keep the same IP for weeks.  DSL, depending on ISP, every fw days at the earliest
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2002, 10:11:11 AM »
hmmm over here in the UK... BT are Finally rolling out broadband

maybe at last i can finally ditch this 56k hell and join the Big Boys Club :(
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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2002, 02:57:43 PM »
Ive been playing socom and Madden for weeks now. SOCOM only problem is not being able to mute people becuase out of every 5 games theres 1 person who annoys me to hell but screaming and making sounds. On madden when people quit it is sooooo annoying especially when they challenge you,
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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2002, 06:00:25 PM »
Speaking of madden are you ready to play cloud345? this is mr jiggs48 owner of the chargers. Drop me a line and let me know. laterz
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