20,000 deads

:rolleyes:

My, the ignorance here is amazing. Look, I hate the REGIME in Iran. NOT the people. In fact, unlike most of the Middle Eastern Muslims towards their dictators, MANY Iranians DESPISE THE MULLAHS! Many were born after the revoluation and have no ill will towards Americans. In fact, the only thing they do know, the despair they have CAUSED by the Mullahs! Also, many Iranians have illegal satellite which shows a better life beyond the American hating government. Which in turn, makes the PEOPLE of Iran more pro-American, pro-West then the government (and other people in the Middle East).

This website talks about the struggle (especially the young people of Iran) towards democracy there. This website also has many photos of people doing something you will not find in other Middle Eastern nations. Uprising, speaking out against their government, and even Iranians CONDEMNING 9-11.

http://www.daneshjoo.org/

Don\'t take the propaganda spewed from their government as the voice of the people.

And yes, I do care. I wish the Iranian people well and hope that true change can happen after this tragedy. In fact, I despise the fact that Mad Cow, which has yet shown to be any problem here AND hasn\'t killed anyone in this nation, gets more coverage then this earthquake. A true tragedy on any scale. All I\'m saying though is, I\'m not going to lose over sleep it either. Life goes on.

I want some mullah.

[Living-In-Clip]

God damn, I swear you all are idiots sometimes. Everyone is making sarcastic remarks - I make one and everyone takes me serious.

Jesus christ.
-shakes head-
No, I don\'t believe the Bush Adminstration was going to Bomb Iran.

[Jumpman]

Now that you say you wern\'t being serious...It really makes sense that you were joking.

You use that sarcasm card too much LIC

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by ViVi
You use that sarcasm card too much LIC

No one has accused you of being the brighest member of the board, infact, you are usually reffered to as the dumbest member of the board, however, I figured even someone as dumb as you could figure out that it was sarcasm. There was not one serious post about the 20,000 dead Iran people and I chimed in with a non-serious post also. However, your idiotic self had to chime in with something, without ever even thinking that it may of been sarcasm.

At least Bozco put a confused face. You, however, just assumed I was serious. In that case, you may as well assume Vid was serious and the other posters who made sarcastic comments about the dead Iranian\'s.

[Jumpman]

I was being serious I could care less.

Originally posted by Simchoy
:rolleyes:

My, the ignorance here is amazing. Look, I hate the REGIME in Iran. NOT the people. In fact, unlike most of the Middle Eastern Muslims towards their dictators, MANY Iranians DESPISE THE MULLAHS! Many were born after the revoluation and have no ill will towards Americans. In fact, the only thing they do know, the despair they have CAUSED by the Mullahs! Also, many Iranians have illegal satellite which shows a better life beyond the American hating government. Which in turn, makes the PEOPLE of Iran more pro-American, pro-West then the government (and other people in the Middle East).

This website talks about the struggle (especially the young people of Iran) towards democracy there. This website also has many photos of people doing something you will not find in other Middle Eastern nations. Uprising, speaking out against their government, and even Iranians CONDEMNING 9-11.

http://www.daneshjoo.org/

Don\'t take the propaganda spewed from their government as the voice of the people.

And yes, I do care. I wish the Iranian people well and hope that true change can happen after this tragedy. In fact, I despise the fact that Mad Cow, which has yet shown to be any problem here AND hasn\'t killed anyone in this nation, gets more coverage then this earthquake. A true tragedy on any scale. All I\'m saying though is, I\'m not going to lose over sleep it either. Life goes on.

Don\'t confuse yourself by thinking that being informed means knowing both sides of the propaganda.  Just like the government spews propaganda so does every other group on this planet.  I\'m not saying that what you sent is all just bull but you have to read between the lines also.  Hundreds of students protesting is far from being an uprising.  I really do hope the regime is gone but if the regime is still in power it means that the majority of the general publice supports it.  In fear or otherwise.

I understand that. And NOWHERE did I say that there is any imminate uprising (I hope there is one, but, since the regime is still here today, that obviously hasn\'t happened yet).

Also, the fact that the regime is still in power doesn\'t mean that the majority supports it. It simply means that the majority STILL fear it. After all, how many of you, are willing to give what little freedom you have, your life even, to change a system you were BORN in?

A majority of Iraqis hated Saddam. Yet this majority still was not able to over throw him without the US stepping in. Don\'t believe me, try every poll released from Iraq showing the people in support of what the US did...unless you are going to say that these are propaganda too. In which case, anything can be said to be propaganda.

And note, my comments were not directed at LIC. I pretty much found it to be sarcasm. But, I will not say I\'m innocent since I, in a number of cases, have taken things too seriously.

You did say, "This website also has many photos of people doing something you will not find in other Middle Eastern nations. Uprising , speaking out against their government, and even Iranians CONDEMNING 9-11."  and I never said imminate uprising .  I already covered the fear part in my post if you bothered reading it.  Heh, at least bother reading my posts before ranting.  Yes, everything is propaganda, hell look people talking on an everyday basis.  We skew facts in our favor routinely.  It\'s part of life.  I find it hard to believe that those polls were taken by every Iraqi citizen.  Neither you nor I know for sure the Iraqi people support Saddam.  Eh I\'m done.

I should have read your post a little closer before ranting. My apologies.

Still, many stories have been told about the student "uprising" have shown that, at least the young people don\'t like what is happening and want change in their government. Since the young people are pretty much the future of Iran, IMO, it is simply a matter of time before the ruling mullahs are gone. Note, where the confusing probably came from, I consider public protesting, public condemnation, and others as "uprising" in a nation where such things WILL get you either arrested or even killed (ust not a widespread, government changing uprising). Matter of semantics, and maybe proper word usage. Again, my apologies for not making myself clear.

Oh, and the closet thing to gauging public sentament of the way the general people of Iran thinks is in the "elections" that they have. In the last few elections, the "reformers" (those who promise a more friendly USA policy and more rights to the people [including women]) have been winning elections to legislature and prime minister. A big blow to the ruling clerics. Or, at least when it comes to the public opinion of them (so, even the Iranian people as a whole are tired of the "conservatives" [which in Iran, are the Fundamentalist Mullahs. Though I think the media uses that term to subvertly stab at our own conservatives. But hey, I\'m just a perinoid right wing extremist right? ]). The obvious problem of course is, the clerics can\'t be voted out, and have veto power over what ever the prime minister wants to do or the legislature (making them the TRUE power of Iran). True democracy in Iran this is not, even with these "elections". The only way this can change is a TRUE revolution.

And I seriously doubt, outside of Saddam\'s hometown (where he has CONSIDERABLE support since, these are the people he took care the most with the billions he recieved from the oil funds when he was in power [not to mention his family is there]) that Iraqis as a whole support Saddam. Especially the Kurds. BUT, to say that he has NO support outside of Tirkrit ([edit]originally said Barsa. Lesson here, NEVER write after New Years) is just as stupid as saying he is supported by everyone there. Propaganda or otherwise.

Eh don\'t worry about apologizing.  I simply wrote that because I saw an open target .  I pretty much agree with most of what you\'ve said, I just like to argue for the sake of arguement.