Madden Wish List

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Originally posted by PSX_J
Yea, there comes a time you have to overlook the gameplay and ask urself, is it really that fun playing the game if everytime *insert noname here* is having a particullarly good game and John Madden spurts out about how great the player is even though he sucks. Al Micheals sounds halfway convincing at times, I guess we\'ll just have to wait for next generation systems so more complex commentary is capable.

The ending commentary of games really needs an uplift.  All you get basically "Well folks thats the end of the game" *insert score here* then a couple of players waiving they\'re helments in the air and what not.  How bout put a little more depth into that including players shaking hands after the game and tv camera crews around.

If EA doesnt get off their big corprate ego\'s and really revamp this series, ESPN is going to swallow them up...and for some reason I really hope they do. Atleast they look at all areas of the game instead of what pleases them.

Not true. Take for example, NFL Blitz Pro, the commentary on that game is a lot more interesting. Before every game, the announcers will announce the team, talk about why the pick a certain team over the other team . Madden doesn\'t even do this.

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Originally posted by QuDDus
Espn has tons of flaws. Tackling is horrible. Especially against a power back he will just run all over you.  At least sega has enough since to know that the half-time show is part of the NFL.

I would have to say madden is much better. Freestyle give you so much more control of the game it\'s awesome. And i love setting high ticket prices:D

 only thing that\'s wrong with espn IS that the running game for certain backs is too amped. gameplay crushes madden. the cutscenes, the commentary blows it away. they even have at least 3 highlights of games that week in nfl primetime. madden has the same rehash year after year. who gives a s**t about setting hotdog prices? say what you want about the cutscenes (crowd,cheerleaders) but that adds alot to the atomosphere. they even have player profile after a big play. Madden is a great game,but i would buy madden just because it\'s "madden". espn is clearly better & it shows.

Not true. Take for example, NFL Blitz Pro, the commentary on that game is a lot more interesting. Before every game, the announcers will announce the team, talk about why the pick a certain team over the other team . Madden doesn\'t even do this.

Havent checked this game out yet, if the commentary is as good as you say it is then I suppose we\'ll have to put Madden\'s lack of depth in that area on account of laziness

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On madden I have the worst defense but the #1 or #2 offense. Why? B/c I own the other team the first half of the game and all of a sudden after picking up 10 ints on the first half the QB throws flawlessly and just keeps them throwing making my Godly defense on the first half look like shit on the second half..

NO MORE MIRACLE COMEBACKS!!!

Tackling..Im running with my HB and he gets talked and bounces back like 3 yards.

tackling...When I try lets say to sack the QB the second i press X to control the nearest DL dude he throws the ball and i get stuck controlling the dude covering the guy the QB threw the ball to and I dont notice b/c since i was diving at the second the QB threw the ball with my DL guy my CB dives. they score.

I hate it when guys running routes in the flats or short cross patterns get stuck behind lineman.

I also hate it when they don\'t throw the flag on obvious defensive pass interference calls, like a guy just blocking your way and shoving you away from the point where the ball lands.

And will it ever be possible to block XP\'s?

Originally posted by SwifDi

And will it ever be possible to block XP\'s?

I have on this one before, well while playing a friend.

Originally posted by clips
only thing that\'s wrong with espn IS that the running game for certain backs is too amped. gameplay crushes madden. the cutscenes, the commentary blows it away. they even have at least 3 highlights of games that week in nfl primetime. madden has the same rehash year after year. who gives a s**t about setting hotdog prices? say what you want about the cutscenes (crowd,cheerleaders) but that adds alot to the atomosphere. they even have player profile after a big play. Madden is a great game,but i would buy madden just because it\'s "madden". espn is clearly better & it shows.

Well I like my football games to be a little bit more realistic. I mean sure all the commentary and highlights are great. But what matters to me most is the gameplay. And comes up a little short.
I mean there really is no running game in ESPN all you gotta do is take your back and charge up the middle your sure the get 3 yards or more.

I mean i seriously hate the running game on ESPN especially with a strong back it is crazy how they will just break tackles. In madden I can become the playmaker and control my back and my blocker. And you actually have to find holes and not just charge threw.

The passing game lacks there of. Only good thing about it is maximum passing. Once you play madden it just doesn\'t seem the same.

I will admit the presentation is awesome but thats it. The passing the running and the ability to beocome the play makes madden so much better. If madden had all the glamour of ESPN there would be no other football game on earth to play.

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Originally posted by QuDDus
Well I like my football games to be a little bit more realistic. I mean sure all the commentary and highlights are great. But what matters to me most is the gameplay. And comes up a little short.
I mean there really is no running game in ESPN all you gotta do is take your back and charge up the middle your sure the get 3 yards or more.

I mean i seriously hate the running game on ESPN especially with a strong back it is crazy how they will just break tackles. In madden I can become the playmaker and control my back and my blocker. And you actually have to find holes and not just charge threw.

The passing game lacks there of. Only good thing about it is maximum passing. Once you play madden it just doesn\'t seem the same.

I will admit the presentation is awesome but thats it. The passing the running and the ability to beocome the play makes madden so much better. If madden had all the glamour of ESPN there would be no other football game on earth to play.

 realistic? hmmm when you run in madden the back runs in place on the blocker..espn the back pushes his hand against the defenders back. player models are way better than madden. And playmaker? woopdee do! tell your blockers where to block! shouldn\'t they know they\'re assignments anyway? to me it\'s just an audible on the run. but alas we could go on forever  with this thing as i\'m sure it\'s just a matter of preference. But for me i\'ve been playing madden since the genesis days and this year was my first year with espn and i was highly impressed. It\'s gonna take alot for EA to convert me back.

Originally posted by clips
realistic? hmmm when you run in madden the back runs in place on the blocker..espn the back pushes his hand against the defenders back. player models are way better than madden. And playmaker? woopdee do! tell your blockers where to block! shouldn\'t they know they\'re assignments anyway? to me it\'s just an audible on the run. but alas we could go on forever  with this thing as i\'m sure it\'s just a matter of preference. But for me i\'ve been playing madden since the genesis days and this year was my first year with espn and i was highly impressed. It\'s gonna take alot for EA to convert me back.

yES blockers do follow there assignments but just like in the NFL sometimes those have to be changed. In Espn all you have to do is run and charge threw.

And I don\'t see how u say you have been so such a madden fan for so long and changed. ESPN is not as depth as madden. Its all presentation. I mean if  all your into is presentation and crib mode how could u play madden so long?

NFL2K has been out for a while now.

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Originally posted by QuDDus
yES blockers do follow there assignments but just like in the NFL sometimes those have to be changed. In Espn all you have to do is run and charge threw.

And I don\'t see how u say you have been so such a madden fan for so long and changed. ESPN is not as depth as madden. Its all presentation. I mean if  all your into is presentation and crib mode how could u play madden so long?

NFL2K has been out for a while now.

 that\'s exactly my point! i was trying not to show any bias towards madden by saying i never played any of the nfl2k games. Everytime i played madden i always stated "damn why don\'t they do a better halftime gig or at least updates from around the league?" and wala espn had it. like i said it\'s preference. i like all that atomoshpere espn brings with it. now madden probably is better when it comes to owning the team & such but i don\'t really care about that,.like i said preference. it\'s also the small details in espn..

when the play is over you can still see def & off linemen pushing each-other like they are about to fight...the running back or receiver automatically jump over defenders on the ground. I know it\'s small but it\'s details like that that make the game so great. oh and another question isn\'t presentation what we want in our games? you can\'t sit there and say naw i don\'t want to see no highlights or how the crowd reacts when i throw an interception. we all want the whole package.. presentation AND gameplay..espn has both.

Most of us around here play in the league and we play online, I haven\'t played ESPN, but I know that Madden is better online for that much.

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i haven\'t played online either but i\'ve heard it\'s not that great. everybody uses either ricky williams,faulk or any other high rated back. In this aspect they really need to tone down the running game and make it more balanced.