If we freed the Iraqi\'s, what about North Korea?

[SirMystiq]

...and Bush would move it in the best direction right?


Kerry is THAT much of a liberal. He is against Gay marriage. Other than that. DEMOCRATS ARE NUMBER 1!!

Where the **** did I say that Bush would move it in the best direction? :rolleyes:

I believe he is better then Kerry yes. But that is not saying much in this day and age now is it?

And Kerry, while on one hand he says he is against gay marriage, his voting record and a few not so public interviews, he supports it. Again, that double speech all politicians do (Republicans or Democrats mind you).

[SirMystiq]

But if he does get into office, he will deffinetly move this nation left (and IMO, the wrong direction).


If left is the wrong direction, then right is right...right? Unless there is an "up" or "down"

Originally posted by Simchoy
If not, then the other solution would be to nuke North Korea before they nuke us, or its neighbor (South Korea and Japan in particular).

Easy there cowboy. You think the world was against us when we went into Iraq without their support? Imagine if we launched a pre-emptive nuclear strike. NO president is that irresponsible.

North Korea is a totally different animal than Iraq. Iraq was basically a walk in the park. We were fighting against a skeleton army that had inferior weapons and no REAL support from anyone. North Korea has numbers, weapons, and the backing of(arguably) our biggest threat in the world. Its like fighting the chess club president or the local crips.

Yes. SirMystiq, that is what I meant. The thing is, Bush isn\'t moving the nation "right". He is simply straddling the line. Better then Kerry mind you (IMO. Another thing you need to get in mind of. This is all IMO), but not in the "right" direction.

Black Samurai, I never said that we should pre-emptively nuke North Korea. And so far, NO ONE is suggesting that. What I am saying, to prevent millions of deaths in South Korea or Japan, we might be forced to do that IF it comes to that. At the moment, thats still a longs way off.

Again, this is why dealing with North Korea requires a COMPLETELY different solution then Iraq. Like comparing apples to oranges.

Kerry won\'t say anything to liberal because he wants to be president....

I think the best choice was kusinich but our country wasn\'t ready to progress that far yet. oh well.

[Titan]

I think I\'m voting for the Republicans in this election. I don\'t like the democrats ideaology in the upcoming election (to be honest, don\'t know much about it, just they want to try and get out of the war and impatient). I\'m voting Republican because Bush should be given the chance (or rather the next president) to finish the job Bush has started and get Iraq back on its feet.

See in a way we can say we are now dealing with PROBLEMS left from the last administrations 8 year hiatus of standing back and doing nothing besides get bj\'s in the oval office, which I do applaude I\'m just saying, just because somethings wrong now doesn\'t always go to the blame of the current president, some people are very quick to judge. My gf\'s father is over there in Iraq now so for  you to say he\'s over there for nothing, then f*ck you. Sorry for the rant.

Clinton has nothing to do with this war, absoultley nothing.

And im sorry about yer family connection to the war and I hope he returns safley.

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Clinton has nothing to do with this war, absoultley nothing.

And im sorry about yer family connection to the war and I hope he returns safley.

Have you been in a coma?  Clinton had every opportunity to get Bin Laden yet he didn\'t.  He also turned a blind eye to Saddam\'s violation of UN sanctions.  Do you deny this?  If you don\'t how can you claim he had absolutely nothing to do with the war in Iraq and on terrorism.  Have you ever heard of cause and effect?

That does not mean he is totally responsible, but he does share the burden.

If you ignore something doesn\'t mean it disappears.  Though I don\'t know what can be done about North Korea without the whole world being involved some way.

Well like Giga said if Clinton had ballsed up and defied the UN(United Nations of No Power), since when has the UN been relatively present in the Middle East and solved anything ever?

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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Have you been in a coma?  Clinton had every opportunity to get Bin Laden yet he didn\'t.  He also turned a blind eye to Saddam\'s violation of UN sanctions.  Do you deny this?  If you don\'t how can you claim he had absolutely nothing to do with the war in Iraq and on terrorism.  Have you ever heard of cause and effect?

That does not mean he is totally responsible, but he does share the burden.

everbody turned a blind eye to saddams violations..truth is if not for 911 sanctions would still be in place..and correct me if i\'m wrong but after the 1st world trade ctr bombing clinton bombed a drug pharmarcy over seas supposedly connected with bin laden if i remember correctly..he also was responsible for the nabbing of that blind muslim they had in custody (at the time they stated he was responsible for the act) forgot this blind muslim name tho.

as far as what side i choose i would say democrat but like i stated in another thread i like some of bushes plan for the country especially the permanent tax cuts with all this billion dollar spending he still feels the american people needs that extra cash in their pocket, and that is something i applaud bush on. The democratic candidates all they talk about is the flim flam with the war & raising taxes there\'s no way any pres. is going to balance the budget so do for the people now instead of rasing taxes & balancing the budget.

so  as you can see i say i\'m a dem but i\'m also for who can do the best job for the amer. people. bush is ok to me..just don\'t agree at all with the issue of iraq.

[Titan]

Originally posted by mjps21983
My gf\'s father is over there in Iraq now so for  you to say he\'s over there for nothing, then f*ck you. Sorry for the rant.

I agree with you. My dad too is in the military. He could be sent to Iraq with like a week\'s notice. Its not a comforting feeling knowing that. I hope your gf\'s father comes home safely.