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Does is seem like PS2 is still sorta new?
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2004, 03:55:35 PM »
PS2 compared to the PSX (PSone) after the same period of time, the PS2 feels fresher.

I also have a GC, but IMO the PS2 feels more fresh. E3 might have had something to do with it, PS2 keeps on impressing (even compared to the PC!)
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2004, 03:36:48 AM »
Yeah, just to add a few things before im out to school:

The ps2 or just consoles in general (but mostly the ps2) have a larger learning curve and the pure excitement from learning how some devs have mastered some aspect of that hardware is uncompareable to anything else. Im not saying that its the #1 reason why consoles have an upper hand but you cant deny the fact that it is something that give that market a boost

I mean, we went from midnight club and ssx which some people thought were awestricking (sp?) but now we have GT4 and similar titles. If youre a techie or a general gamer, the leaps made in developing for the ps2 etc. is very facinating.
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2004, 04:23:45 AM »
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^ :o  I totally disagree.....

To Unicron ; yes the PS2 does indeed feature that typical broad array of console games, but......same goes for PC as well I guess
; RTS genre, USA/Europe made RPG/adventures...
Don\'t get me wrong I consider myself more a console gamer than a PC gamer (PS2, Xbox and Pc with only SplinterCell installed).

Also....some genres which were strong on consoles a few years back, like the conventional fighting games and F1 games, have been pretty weak nowadays.... Consoles still don\'t have many RTS games and more and more devs are trying to make FPS work on consoles ; Halo 1&2, GoldenEye 007, Killzone, Timesplitters1&2, Geist etc...

Then, companies like Sega, Konami, Rockstar, Ubi Soft, Eidos and MS game Studios all bring big console games over to PC. SH4 and MGS3 will probably make it to PC as well... Of course...Japanese RPG\'s and niche games you won\'t find on pc but since I\'m not into RPG\'s at all that\'s no big loss.

On the hardware side of things: Xbox2 and N5 \'ll probably be powered by a custom version of Ati\'s X800.......hmmmmm


RTS?:confused: whats an RTS?

Anyways for the other genres though these genres like fighting games even weaker than previously it is still stronger on consoles.Weaker or not than previously it doesnt change anything.(Thats due to the fact that only 3 developers seem to rule in that genre and they are bringing franchises that were used and survived since 1994.Capcom/Namco/Sega)
As much as developers are trying to bring console titles on PCs they rarely have the same appealing.Just like FPS that have less appealing on consoles.Your arguement doesnt change the fact that the many genres I mentioned cant offer the same gameplay experience on PCs.And when good console developers think of console games they take a different approach.
Just see famous console games that are realeased on PCs.They stand out in aspects other than graphics.Famous PC games that are released on consoles feel very much the same or have the same gameplay schemes.Also in console games especially from japanese developers the story and character development are as important as the gameplay.And everything is based on these things including the gameplay.So according to story or character you get a totally different feel from each game.If the game isnt story/character driven they try to create a sense of style and dynamism.For example lets take Ace Combat.Namco tried to incorporate the feel of air combat.And it stands out depsite the fact that is less complicated than most PC flight sims.
Or lets take the Gran Turismo series.How many racing titles on PC have been adored as much by car lovers as GT?

Lets see one more time what games have a strong appealing in consoles?
Fighting games, beat-em-up games, RPGs, Racing games, Adventure games, Platform games, Action games.

Now take each genre and you ll see a greater variety of styles and even sub-genres despite the fact that less multi region released games are being released on consoles(unless ofcourse if you are living in Japan :p) on hardware that is older because they have to express more creativity in order to impress since the hardware is still the same old one and possibilities from it are less.Thus games dont evolve only on hardware evolution in consoles.
PC games evolve as hardware evolves.Games become better almost solely because of better AI, graphic effects, sound etc that more powerful hardware offers
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2004, 04:56:23 AM »
Real Time Strategy ;)  games

Well, I guess in the end I agree with you and most games, from either side, get hurt in the port proces. Maybe I got a little into the Nvidia and Ati hype which is now going on with their new videocards, but for me where it all comes down to : when Sony announces Nico (Ico 2) for PS3. I am truly of opinion that game DESERVES next gen hardware.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2004, 05:25:37 AM »
Hmm yea. I don\'t know but I think I\'m starting to grow out of it. I don\'t remember the last time I bought a game!

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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2004, 07:43:54 AM »
IMO, PS2 hit it\'s graphical peak about a year ago and now it\'s in a nice stride.  I watched alot of the E3 videos for each console and while PS2 still manages to look great, Xbox and GC seem to be pulling out ahead more and more.

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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2004, 07:46:39 AM »
SER ^and you\'re ..... old ? I\'m 26 and i\'ll be gamer for life. Heck, I find it hard enough to fit in some hours for gaming between busy work and sports. Yeah i know those \'down\' times... but you\'ll be back. Everybody \'ll be hyped again for sure when the next gen stuff commences.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2004, 11:25:27 AM »
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I think ps2 is overshadowed by ps1 because ps2 didn\'t really provide any revolutionary games or anything, most ps2 games are just the same crap over and over again.


Same goes for any system, pc or otherwise.. Nothing is original anymore. Everything is rehashes with better graphics. That’s why there is such a thing called genre. The games can be put in categories that have already been done.   Now it’s just about what’s the prettiest and best story line driven.
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2004, 07:32:30 PM »
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SER ^and you\'re ..... old ? I\'m 26 and i\'ll be gamer for life. Heck, I find it hard enough to fit in some hours for gaming between busy work and sports. Yeah i know those \'down\' times... but you\'ll be back. Everybody \'ll be hyped again for sure when the next gen stuff commences.


20 here. I guess I just haven\'t had the time to sit down and enjoy a good game. But yeah, now that I think about it.... I will be a gamer for life. :cool:

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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2004, 05:07:33 AM »
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20 here. I guess I just haven\'t had the time to sit down and enjoy a good game. But yeah, now that I think about it.... I will be a gamer for life. :cool:


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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2004, 02:34:34 PM »
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My wife married me, knowing full well that I play video games and will be a video-gamer for the rest of our married life. :D She\'s better at fighting games than I am, though. :p

Damn. I dont know a single girl that can beat me in any game. Not that thats something special. I just find it amusing that she can beat you in a fighting game of all things (unless its a button masher).
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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2004, 03:18:05 PM »
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My wife married me, knowing full well that I play video games and will be a video-gamer for the rest of our married life. :D She\'s better at fighting games than I am, though. :p


What \'fighting games\' do you and your wife exactly play then ? And what kind of \'buttons\' do you mash !? :laughing:
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2004, 03:26:48 PM »
definitely gotta be a button masher...i remember playin my son in tekken and all he did was use low kicks...everytime i would try to grab or hit him, i\'d get whacked..i beat him but it actually takes some skill to beat a button masher..:p
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2004, 05:10:44 PM »
PS2 is getting old, i only play 2 games as of now, SOCOM (which will never get old, well until people find out ways to cheat anyway.) and MVP baseball, which I dont play too much anyway.

Hopefully I\'ll get more into PS2 again when MGS3 and GT4 come out. Also I need PS2 to come out with a new RPG, FFXI gets too boring after a while.
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Is it me? Or does PSone own all the other systems?

 

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