Does is seem like PS2 is still sorta new?

[GmanJoe]

Even though it was released nearly 4 years ago in the US? Is it coz there aren\'t as many released games for the PS2 as was for the PSOne? When rumors and speculation about PS3 was to be released in 2005, I thought, "Man, the PS2 is only in hitting its stride!"

Yet, PS2 was released in Oct 26 in 2001, correct? Or was it 2000? Anyway, it still seems like new to me.

Sorry for the retrospect...but I was wondering is anyone else shared the same opinion.

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

Xbox and GC are even newer, and they\'re said to be released early too.

Unfortunately Im growing rather weary of the PS2, same goes with the X-box and Gamecube.  This generation has lost it\'s appeal and it\'s getting tiresome.  Right now all I ever play is my PC because console games lost they\'re awe factor.  Here\'s to the next generation. :beer:

[Kurt Angle]

I still enjoy the ps2, there are some great games on the horizon too. Not bad for a machine nearly 4 years old.

Well... it\'s like this ; there are some great PS2 games coming up like MGS3, Killzone, SH4 etc.

But with the PC now in transition from AGPx8 to PCI-E the \'weaknesses\' which consoles always have had compared to PC become a notch more appearant. DX9 effects on consoles are nil.
Xbox can \'simulate\' those, but it comes at a cost which Xbox
is known for ; very limited framerate.

Check this Splinter Cell 3 movie :
SC3 for PC

SC3 is made from scratch for PC by Ubi Montreal, the original SC team. I read they made a whole new engine for #3 instead of tweaking that Unreal tech again.
So...the Xbox won\'t be the SC3 starting point. Framerate was a bit weak in Xbox Pandora Tomorrow imo. I can\'t imagine Xbox running SC3 without a huge downgrade in visuals.

Anyway, Konami\'s Kojima team and the likes are still able to get some graphical candy out of PS2 some more ; just look at the new MGS3 E3 trailer where \'Snake\' wades through water and watery mud ; the mud looks very very good with a kind of alpha mapped specular shader. But imo the next generation, consoles will marginally lose popularity compared to PC\'s.

I was starting to get bored but after seeing a few games from these years E3 trailers I got interested again.Actually I got excited.
Graphical evolution on PS2 is still great.SH4 looks freakishly gorgeous, GT4 wows, Tekken5 seems greatly improved compared to 4, MGS3 shows great promise and great graphical detail, DMC3 although not sure if it will suck showed great graphics and animation and also superb scenes (scenes like the first part of the trailer is enough to keep me more interested on console games)
I seem to get more interested on console games more than PCs despite the unmatched PC graphical performance due to reasons other than graphics as well.PS2 seems to still do the job for me

Well in terms of PC\'s, you must also remember that they cost 5 times more and sometimes more than that (to at least get the performance you want). Inbetween that time you may upgrade your pc 2-3 times where you just pay the initial 300 or so for the Console. Now im not giving an excuse for why consoles have the upperhand because thats far from the truth. Its just that you cant always complain about the technology difference in consoles vs. PC.

PS2 still gets the job done for me. There are times where i just play old games and yes, in its aging, it has lost some of its appeal but there are games that came out ages ago that i have had or havent had that still keep my interest. I mean, im still playing GT3. GuiltyGearX2 always gets some action. The list goes on, but with a storm of good looking games coming along, im perfectly fine with this generation.

[GmanJoe]

Though I respect the PC\'s graphical power, I just wanna sit on the couch or floor and play a video game on my large screen TV. Not on my 19 inch monitor.

How many expensive video cards have lived and died since the PS2\'s arrival? I love my PC....but $340 for a video card and 3 years later, it\'s about $50 in the bargain bin. Yeah, it\'ll produce graphically superior games.....but still...console games is where it\'s at.

Think of it this way : Console games make more money than most PC games.

^ Indeed, console\'s graphics are sufficient enough until now to immerse the player. But the argument that PC\'s cost several times as much doesn\'t really hold anymore, becuz most ppl (parents) have a decent PC already. The PC games of today become more and more reliant on just the graphics card, rather than insane cpu clockspeed. Anyone with a  2 Ghz CPU pc and a Radeon 9600 will be able to play games like HL2 pretty well, whereas the PS2 and NGC won\'t be able to play that game ....at all.... and that is a fact which Sony and Nintendo cannot deny.

Add on the effect on card prices when the Gf6800 and Radeon X800 arrive ; guess what ppl will buy to play greatlooking games :
a dirtcheap Fx5950/Radeon 9800 or a PS2 with aging visuals ?

I like the variety of styles seen mostly in console targeted games in terms of artwork and presentation.More detailed graphics just cant replace that.For example what games on PC have we seen that can match the presentation and style seen in DMC?Games on PC usually follow similar stereotypes and certain genres seem to have the most appeal like strategy and FPS.On consoles a greater amount of genres seem to share the same amount of appealing from gamers.
Platform games, fighting games, RPGs, action games, survival horror games, flight games a la ace combat, racing games etc all seem to have an equal position in console gaming.

i used to plove my ps2, but ow i have a x box, and game cube, it is the least played of the lot.

i must admit i have not enjoyed my ps2, or any of the other console more than i did the ps1,.

PS2 doesn\'t feel new to me, but the XBOX and GC do.

This is going to sound stupid but the reason I like playing PC games more is simply because of the feel.  Theres a different feel to using the keyboard and mouse that just seems right...compared to using a controller.  I\'ll never be able to reap the true benifits of PC gaming untill I get a better gfx card though.

I think ps2 is overshadowed by ps1 because ps2 didn\'t really provide any revolutionary games or anything, most ps2 games are just the same crap over and over again.

^ :o  I totally disagree.....

To Unicron ; yes the PS2 does indeed feature that typical broad array of console games, but......same goes for PC as well I guess
; RTS genre, USA/Europe made RPG/adventures...
Don\'t get me wrong I consider myself more a console gamer than a PC gamer (PS2, Xbox and Pc with only SplinterCell installed).

Also....some genres which were strong on consoles a few years back, like the conventional fighting games and F1 games, have been pretty weak nowadays.... Consoles still don\'t have many RTS games and more and more devs are trying to make FPS work on consoles ; Halo 1&2, GoldenEye 007, Killzone, Timesplitters1&2, Geist etc...

Then, companies like Sega, Konami, Rockstar, Ubi Soft, Eidos and MS game Studios all bring big console games over to PC. SH4 and MGS3 will probably make it to PC as well... Of course...Japanese RPG\'s and niche games you won\'t find on pc but since I\'m not into RPG\'s at all that\'s no big loss.

On the hardware side of things: Xbox2 and N5 \'ll probably be powered by a custom version of Ati\'s X800.......hmmmmm