Why do people CARE so much about graphics?

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I think graphics are partially important to a game. Its always good to have some nice eye candy while your playing. Gameplay will always be the most important factor of a game. For example, FFVII is in my opinion the best rpg of all time (this is my opinion and my opinion only) Its battle system and set up was awesome plus story line was great too. Now it was the first FF for the playstation 1 and I still think it was the best. FFVIII had much better graphics but the gameplay and battle system sucked hardcore ass. Great graphics are always nice but to have a great game you need to have that kickass gameplay that keeps you coming back for more. Plus about the XBOX and all the people bashing on it. WHO CARES. ps2 will do great. Xbox is still yet to be determined on how it will fair in the gaming world. Whether it sucks or not , it doesnt matter. If you got a ps2, enjoy it, if you really think xbox is better then by all means go buy one when it releases. TO each their own.

Originally posted by Futami
Whever someone defends the Xbox they invariably end up invoking the tired spec argument. The Xbox is supposedly more powerful, thus it will crush the PS2.

Maybe they do and maybe that argument is tired but to sum it up no the Xbox won\'t crush the Playstation 2 but is it more powerful, you bet your arse it is. That isn\'t a knock against Sony by any means but rather technological progress which in all of the posts i\'ve ever seen you post, you have never brought yourself to admit that very obvious fact. Ironically you have little trouble using the same tired spec agument against Gamecube (6 Million PPS vs 66 Million PPS) to justify your abnormal obsession toward Playstation 2 as demonstrated in your last short stint at Gaming-Age.

Originally posted by Futami
Do we REALLY require graphics 5 times more powerful than what we\'ve witnessed in GT3, or FFX, or even MGS2? Is it a necessity when weighing the merits of the opposing systems, or is the library the only criterion we should factor when making our decision?

Then by your logic do we even need anything more than an Atari 2600 to play fun games. The better the graphics the more immersive the gaming experience, quite simple. GT3 and FFX may look good (I don\'t think to much of MGS2 personally) but do you think they can\'t look better, are you saying we should forget about all successive generations of consoles and put our stake in the Playstation 2 as the ultimate entertainment device to last us till the end of Human history?

Originally posted by Futami
Let\'s FACE the facts. The PS2 will be the victor this generation. That is obvious to anyone with a brain,

Victor of what, most Hardware sold at a loss...maybe, or victor of the best and most enjoyable games...very doubtfull. Sony could sell through 100 Million Playstation 2\'s (which they won\'t) but if there are no games that I am interested in then I couldn\'t give a fu[/i]ck. I\'d much rather settle for a cheap, kiddy Gamecube thats only sold through 5 Million if im going to get more enjoyment out of it.

Originally posted by Futami
and the Xbox looks to lack the support that success in this market necessitates.

Maybe and maybe not, truth is you have sh[/i]it all idea because you aren\'t someone working at Microsoft thats in a position to be able to access that sort of information.

Originally posted by Futami
So while you Microsoft fanatics harp about the unparralleled power of the Xbox, I\'ll be playing the amazing library of the PS2.

So what amazing library would that be, anything other than MGS2, GT3 and FFX perhaps. While it is subject to change (and it will improve definatly) the present Playstation 2 games library leaves much to be desired, especially in comparison to what we\'ve seen in the past with the Dreamcast. To slander the Xbox lineup (a machine that doesn\'t basically exist yet) in the face of the current Playstation 2 games library is hypocrisy in it\'s purest form.

Originally posted by Futami
And yes I\'m glad the Xbox received such a poor reception at TGS.

Simply because you\'re a ridiculous, brainless Sony zealot who takes great pride in seeing all competitors to his choice of games console crushed in any way shape and form. GET A FU[/i]CKING LIFE!!!

Originally posted by Trintius


GET A FU[/i]CKING LIFE!!!

hey Trin where you been, Trin Trin trin MM Fav\' Fanboy.

oh i cant wait to see Mm reaction when he learns your  Still around.
look it\'s Simple even you will understand.

Originally posted by Futami
Whever someone defends the Xbox they invariably end up invoking the tired spec argument

True , thats the standard tatic that very MS Fanboy uses just go to MSXBOx forum and see a full forum of them doing it.

Originally posted by Futami
The Xbox is supposedly more powerful, thus it will crush the PS2.

this was the argument the Sega and nintendo Fanboys used against the PSX, they said the Deamcast and N64 was far more powerful than the PSX and they said it will be crushed. But the question is now where is the Dreamcast and N64 ?

Originally posted by Futami Do we REALLY require graphics 5 times more powerful than what we\'ve witnessed in GT3, or FFX, or even MGS2? Is it a necessity when weighing the merits of the opposing systems

Metal gear Solid 2 could of supported full anti alisi, but thank GOD Mr Hideo wanted GamesPLAY  and not EYE CANDY !

Originally posted by Futami
That is obvious to anyone with a brain, and the Xbox looks to lack the support that success in this market necessitates. So while you Microsoft fanatics harp about the unparralleled power of the Xbox, I\'ll be playing the amazing library of the PS2. And yes I\'m glad the Xbox received such a poor reception at TGS.

a kind of good point BUT !

the main problem with MS Fanboys is that they assume that microsoft will have the same Sucess with the X box than they had with the Windows OS !

but correct me if i am wrong but wasn\'t the Windows OS a Monopoly ?

i.e. they never had any real compentition ?

Same MS Fanboys don\'t realise this !

The PS2 will be microsofts first real compentition, and correct me if i am wrong but SONy are not one for backing out of a Fight or laying down to other companyes.

p.s.

Please if your a fanboy and your going to point out how powerful MS is , please STOP !

ill think you find SONY has a bigger value than MS.

Don\'t confuse Bill gates PERSONAL WEALTH with Microsofts POWER !

Originally posted by EThugg
And Futami, I would respond to the stupid statement you made, but due to the shear volume, I realize your to stupid to understand facts, so it\'d be a waste of time. \'Do we need games that look 5x better than GT3..\'... you need some sense slapped into you....
\'No, lets stop progression of in game graphics cause I\'m feeling insecure cause of Xbox!\'... :rolleyes:

The PS2 suits me fine. I don\'t require a negligible "progression" in graphics. I\'ve seen nothing on the Xbox, thus far, that justifies its purchase. And I\'ve certainly yet to observe a single game on the Xbox that approaches the visual splendor FFX embodies. Your argument supports my point competently. You\'re concerned with graphics. You\'re obsessed with specificiations, while I\'m interested in elevating the gameplay experience. But I\'ve read enough of your posts to conclude you\'re a worthless Xbox lackey so piss off.

Originally posted by Trintius


Maybe they do and maybe that argument is tired but to sum it up no the Xbox won\'t crush the Playstation 2 but is it more powerful, you bet your arse it is. That isn\'t a knock against Sony by any means but rather technological progress which in all of the posts i\'ve ever seen you post, you have never brought yourself to admit that very obvious fact. Ironically you have little trouble using the same tired spec agument against Gamecube (6 Million PPS vs 66 Million PPS) to justify your abnormal obsession toward Playstation 2 as demonstrated in your last short stint at Gaming-Age.

 

Then by your logic do we even need anything more than an Atari 2600 to play fun games. The better the graphics the more immersive the gaming experience, quite simple. GT3 and FFX may look good (I don\'t think to much of MGS2 personally) but do you think they can\'t look better, are you saying we should forget about all successive generations of consoles and put our stake in the Playstation 2 as the ultimate entertainment device to last us till the end of Human history?



Victor of what, most Hardware sold at a loss...maybe, or victor of the best and most enjoyable games...very doubtfull. Sony could sell through 100 Million Playstation 2\'s (which they won\'t) but if there are no games that I am interested in then I couldn\'t give a fu[/i]ck. I\'d much rather settle for a cheap, kiddy Gamecube thats only sold through 5 Million if im going to get more enjoyment out of it.



Maybe and maybe not, truth is you have sh[/i]it all idea because you aren\'t someone working at Microsoft thats in a position to be able to access that sort of information.

 

So what amazing library would that be, anything other than MGS2, GT3 and FFX perhaps. While it is subject to change (and it will improve definatly) the present Playstation 2 games library leaves much to be desired, especially in comparison to what we\'ve seen in the past with the Dreamcast. To slander the Xbox lineup (a machine that doesn\'t basically exist yet) in the face of the current Playstation 2 games library is hypocrisy in it\'s purest form.



Simply because you\'re a ridiculous, brainless Sony zealot who takes great pride in seeing all competitors to his choice of games console crushed in any way shape and form. GET A FU[/i]CKING LIFE!!!

**** YOU MOTHER****ER. Did you see me resort to crude expeletives to make a point??? NO. And then you cast your foul aspersions my way because you\'re too mentally handicapped to form a cogent argument? The PS2 already has provided me with hours of contentment. The PS2\'s graphics are more than adequate, and certainly compare quite favorably to anything on the Xbox. This is a PS2 forum asshole. I want the Xbox to be summarily dismissed upon its launch, and I suspect that will be the ultimate outcome. I hate you Xbox fanatics. Go to ****ing hell.

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Originally posted by Trintius

Victor of what, most Hardware sold at a loss...maybe, or victor of the best and most enjoyable games...very doubtfull. Sony could sell through 100 Million Playstation 2\'s (which they won\'t) but if there are no games that I am interested in then I couldn\'t give a fu[/i]ck.

...no offense...but your reasoning has no logic...I mean...if a hypothetical console reach 100 Millions Units,it does mean it has Great Games,and an extensive and interesting variety of games...so...if you aren\'t interested,that\'s your personal business and I think people don\'t care about it! (...I\'m speaking in general)

I\'d much rather settle for a cheap, kiddy Gamecube thats only sold through 5 Million if im going to get more enjoyment out of it.

...again...it\'s pure Utopia...Game Cube will be a Great Console and I\'m confident it will reach far a bigger installed base than the N64!  Why?  It\'s a technological jewel and I think this time GC will have more support from Third party Developers!

...so...if you were interested on a kiddy console wich will reach only 5 Million Units :rolleyes:...again...it should mean you\'d be interested on a kiddy console with no great games ...and a Great Console like NGC will capture our attention with wonderful games and will reach,as a result of it,a huge success=BIG installed base

...it\'s really a simple concept:D

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Originally posted by Futami




**** YOU MOTHER****ER. Did you see me resort to crude expeletives to make a point??? NO. And then you cast your foul aspersions my way because you\'re too mentally handicapped to form a cogent argument? The PS2 already has provided me with hours of contentment. The PS2\'s graphics are more than adequate, and certainly compare quite favorably to anything on the Xbox. This is a PS2 forum asshole. I want the Xbox to be summarily dismissed upon its launch, and I suspect that will be the ultimate outcome. I hate you Xbox fanatics. Go to ****ing hell.

Don\'t worry mate, Trin is a Fanboy through and through.

just give him a few more posts and he will be out on his @rse.

the X box will launch and it will sell, BUT !

it won\'t acheave as much of a wide fan base the Playstation 2 has enjoyed so far.

You see people are scared of the X box because it is far too close to a PC.

and as we all know most people just buy a console to play games, they don\'t want the hastle of upgrading or the having to download patches from cover disks and the internet.

in short the X box WILL face the same problem that the PS2 faced from launch day, the question is will they have the experiance to handle them as well as trying to sell there console ?

The PS2 is over the hard bit, it\'s launched and all we have to do is just sit back and wait for the games (and to buy th ones we don\'t have yet).

p.s.

if you think Trin is mentally handicapped , then you have not seen the crap posted on MSXbox forum .

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hmm.. So much anger i see here.

Ohh well... CLOSED.