Why do people CARE so much about graphics?

Whever someone defends the Xbox they invariably end up invoking the tired spec argument. The Xbox is supposedly more powerful, thus it will crush the PS2. Do we REALLY require graphics 5 times more powerful than what we\'ve witnessed in GT3, or FFX, or even MGS2? Is it a necessity when weighing the merits of the opposing systems, or is the library the only criterion we should factor when making our decision? Let\'s FACE the facts. The PS2 will be the victor this generation. That is obvious to anyone with a brain, and the Xbox looks to lack the support that success in this market necessitates. So while you Microsoft fanatics  harp about the unparralleled power of the Xbox,  I\'ll be playing the amazing library of the PS2.  And yes I\'m glad the Xbox received such a poor reception at TGS.

Not everyone cares about the graphics, at least that\'s not all they care about.  I think graphics is the focus of many conversations because you can see a game\'s graphics long before you can experience its gameplay.

welll...... ok, this belongs in the console debating as for it will start a flame war one way or another, it all about the gameplay plain and simple, the reason X Box fans are so hyped is becuase of the graphics, not the games, thye are hypnotized and blind to the fact that if the graphics will be better then the ps2, it will be be great game, not for 1 time thinking, what if it turns out to be a sh!ty game? i have joined the MSXBOX forums not to long ago so that i may broaden my look at consoles and check ouT stuff from thier point of view.  X box need more japan support or it will fail to make a scene over seas, that will be bad, and i am not trying to say that all x box fans are lke that, there are cool ones as well

Originally posted by Futami
Whever someone defends the Xbox they invariably end up invoking the tired spec argument. The Xbox is supposedly more powerful, thus it will crush the PS2. Do we REALLY require graphics 5 times more powerful than what we\'ve witnessed in GT3, or FFX, or even MGS2? Is it a necessity when weighing the merits of the opposing systems, or is the library the only criterion we should factor when making our decision? Let\'s FACE the facts. The PS2 will be the victor this generation. That is obvious to anyone with a brain, and the Xbox looks to lack the support that success in this market necessitates. So while you Microsoft fanatics  harp about the unparralleled power of the Xbox,  I\'ll be playing the amazing library of the PS2.  And yes I\'m glad the Xbox received such a poor reception at TGS.

It has yet to be seen if Xbox can even equal the graphics pumped out of the PS2.  They have vastly different architecture, It\'s hard to compare specs.

look at is this way, PSone has probably the worst graphics of the 2 other consoles (N64 and Dreamcast) and still has WAY better games. I was blown away with the graphics in Sonic Adventure, but the game was lame as hell. Playstation will always be 2nd or 3rd in the console wars with the graphics, but #1 with gameplay which I personaly like better.

Originally posted by Claypool 2001
look at is this way, PSone has probably the worst graphics of the 2 other consoles (N64 and Dreamcast) and still has WAY better games. I was blown away with the graphics in Sonic Adventure, but the game was lame as hell. Playstation will always be 2nd or 3rd in the console wars with the graphics, but #1 with gameplay which I personaly like better.

Hmm... I have to defend my PSone on this one... I happen to like the semi-realistic gritty feel to most of the PSone graphics... eg:Gran Turismo 1+2, Vagrant Story, FF8+9... I like the way it does colors and most of the newer games look pretty tight... SO There!  

Great point. Despite its obvious technological deficiencies, the psONE  provided me with inumerable hours of gaming bliss. I hope that experience is replicated with the PS2. I\'m just sick of the Xbox crowd. They remind me of the Dreamcast crowd. A bunch of elitist, pious pricks. No wonder most Sega fans are now newly converted Microsoft monks.

People care about graphics because of their money, or I
should say the money they invested in a certain console.
Sure they still can get a great gameplay experience from a 16 bit console. But it\'s a matter of getting quality visuals for money. If another console pops up with alo better grafx just after you bought one your gonna feel a
little bummed. Gameplay should be considered \'for granted\' in this point of view. We expect the console to provide those great \'gameplay\' games. But we want value for money as well and thus good graphics.
That\'s why there\'s the fenomenon \'fanboy\'. Everybody wants to know they bought the smartest deal. :thepimp:

Knotter8

\'Why do people like movies to be in color?\'
\'Why do people like cheese on their pizza?\'
\'Why do people like anything to drink besides water?\'


The premise of the thread is IMO retarded. Why would we get new systems if we didn\'t care about graphics?

BTW, I beg to differ on the \'PSones got better games\' arguement. There are as many classics on both N64, and DC (and for DC thats quite a feat, considering its less than 2 years old).

Most PSone games does have long hours of gaming time.  PS2 have lots of short games,  Like Star Wars  StarFighter.  I still play PSone game more than PS2 games.  That is untill GT3 and MGS3 comes out.

And Futami, I would respond to the stupid statement you made, but due to the shear volume, I realize your to stupid to understand facts, so it\'d be a waste of time. \'Do we need games that look 5x better than GT3..\'... you need some sense slapped into you....
\'No, lets stop progression of in game graphics cause I\'m feeling insecure cause of Xbox!\'... :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Futami
Great point. Despite its obvious technological deficiencies, the psONE  provided me with inumerable hours of gaming bliss. I hope that experience is replicated with the PS2. I\'m just sick of the Xbox crowd. They remind me of the Dreamcast crowd. A bunch of elitist, pious pricks. No wonder most Sega fans are now newly converted Microsoft monks.

Sounds like a an elitist, pious Sony prick who seemed to like to rub specs and graphics and more power in the face of proud Dreamcast owners.

What a loser. Sony zealots complain when XBOX zealots rub specs in their face to prove a point so the Sony zealots rub the supposedly superior games in the XBOX zealots face. Just like when Sega zealots rub the games into a Sony zealots face when Sony zealots rub specs in theirs.

Grow up.

I couldn\'t agree more with EThugg, This is a lame thread,
it shows a typical fanboy, If you don\'t want better and better graphics go back to playing pong.

[Bobs_Hardware]

people like nice graphics, because then Lara Croft can have better boobies

...thats the only thing i can think of

i really dont think people care about graphics most of the time, its just what ends up being argued about when consoles havent launched yet

well..its the first thing you notice (basically the first impression) when a game is in development the only thing you can see is graphics, so people will judge the game on its visuals. This is the basic problem with casual gamers (you know the peeps who only buy EA soccer games) judge games on visuals and brand name (hence the FIFA series) . When a game looks **** , they wont buy it. They dont respect good 2d RPGs, They say chrono trigger sucks because it s 2d! WTF man look at the gameplay man. I also hate FFVIIIs grany graphics but the gamepley makes me come back for more !