Daily Fanboy Post: More of Julian\'s comments on NGC vs X Box!!!

Thanks to cybamerc at the IGN boards:

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Julian has posted at Maniac Online once again.

First off he clarifies an earlier comment made by him on the matter of texture decompression. He says that textures do not have to be decompressed completely on the Xbox. Decompressed texels have to travel over the main bus however (which impacts performance). Not a catastrophy but not as efficient as NGC.

NGC has a more effective vertex compression than Xbox.

The ADPCM audio format used in the NGC is much more effective and has better sound quality than Microsoft\'s version.

DICE latency is between 75-100 ms. That makes it unuseable for action titles.

NV2A fillrate is worse than NV20 (GF3) fillrate. And compared to NGC NV20 fillrate is much worse. He also says that high fillrate is extremely important.

Factor 5 has conducted very elaborate tests on the Xbox and NGC with their current project (RL?) and has come to the conclusion that 60 fps is not possible on the Xbox - or at least only with less features.

He doesn\'t know what caused the poor framerates (in Xbox games) at E3 but doubts that it has anything to do with sound. The problems remind him of N64

They are still waiting for final Xbox hardware

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I am buying an X Box at launch so don\'t flame me yada yada.   I think this is BS(the part with there no way to get RS2 at 60fps on xbox) what do you guys think?

As much as I defend the hardware, I don\'t care. I want Munch, Halo, etc... All about the games.

Originally posted by EThugg
As much as I defend the hardware, I don\'t care. I want Munch, Halo, etc... All about the games.

I agree!!!!!!!!  Even if xbox couldn\'t do it I wouldn\'t care.  Cause all the next gen consoles graphics aren\'t a big as a jump as all the programmers make it out to be.  Plus after looking at project gothem and doa3 I\'m pretty sure xbox can do something with RS2.

i agree good specs dont make the system popular good games do.

Originally posted by ps2gamer_59
i agree good specs dont make the system popular good games do.

I agree just look at the 3do and jaguar which both were more powerful than super nes and genesis.  But the 3do and jaguar SUCKED cause they barley had any good games!!!!!!!!!

Huh?  Is that Factor 5?  I got a fair number of "specail" comments when we ran the rumor that they had dev kits.  Oh well, I will be interested in his opinions on the final dev kits.

Every console has their stupid, trash talking developer. PS2 has Jason Rubin, Xbox box has Lorne Lanning, and NGC has Julian. Do not listen to these people. While they might be talented they\'re usually high on shrooms and speek total bull**** that should not be taken seriously.

Originally posted by ho3j
Personally, I think that Silicon Knights guy is the Rubin/Lanning of the GCN.  F5 is more of a sceptic.

That all bad imo.  They are what you call sophicated fanboys.

Personally, I think that Silicon Knights guy is the Rubin/Lanning of the GCN.  F5 is more of a sceptic.

Originally posted by ho3j
Personally, I think that Silicon Knights guy is the Rubin/Lanning of the GCN.  F5 is more of a sceptic.

WHAT??? Are you talking about Denis Dyack? How can you compare him to Lanning or Rubin? He\'s one of the most open-minded developers that I\'ve seen. At the IGNCube boards he openly admitted to liking games on other systems besides Nintendo\'s. He\'s not biased nor is he a moron. Are you sure your thinking about him because he really isn\'t anyway as retarded and biased as Lanning, Julian, or Rubin. I\'ve never seen him bash a console before...

Originally posted by Jumpman
Every console has their stupid, trash talking developer. PS2 has Jason Rubin, Xbox box has Lorne Lanning, and NGC has Julian. Do not listen to these people. While they might be talented they\'re usually high on shrooms and speek total bull**** that should not be taken seriously.

LMAO

I\'ll listen to RUbin anyday. He speaks loudly and he caries the big stick

but on a serious note


I seriously find it extremly hard to believe XBox is weaker the GC in all those areas.

Originally posted by ddaryl



LMAO

I\'ll listen to RUbin anyday. He speaks loudly and he caries the big stick

I don\'t listen to any developer. I\'m tired of promises, I want results. After N64 and PS2 I can\'t trust any developer on what what they say their and other systems can do.
Here are some examples.

Nintendo: "We will have CG like graphics with Project Reality".

Sony: "We will have CG like graphics with the PS2.

Rubin: *makes fun of Lanning in a childesh manner then claims Nintendo is kiddie and Microsoft is not a threat to PS2.

Lanning: "Since PS2 development kits costs more than our yearly earnings, I have decided to make our game on Xbox."

Julian: "I\'ll eat a broom if Xbox can do Rogue Squadron."

I\'d say Rubin, Lanning, and Julian are all on the same level of stupidity. I think they should keep their mouths shut and work on their games.

Yamauchi is the dumbest of them all...

Fuuny, you only hear good things about Sega developers.

Yuji Naka says great things and loves many Nintendo games.

Yu Suzuki loves the raw power and intricacies of the PS2, many of which he has worked with before.

Tetsyu Mitsuguchi loves the XBox\'s raw power and is vry psyched about working on it.

Of course, this may be because they are third party now, but before, you would only hear good things coming from the big guys at Sega.

Eric Jacob

Originally posted by Jumpman

WHAT??? Are you talking about Denis Dyack? How can you compare him to Lanning or Rubin? He\'s one of the most open-minded developers that I\'ve seen. At the IGNCube boards he openly admitted to liking games on other systems besides Nintendo\'s. He\'s not biased nor is he a moron. Are you sure your thinking about him because he really isn\'t anyway as retarded and biased as Lanning, Julian, or Rubin. I\'ve never seen him bash a console before...

I cannot find comments that make me agree with you but I am looking.  So far they are all along the lines of this:

"I don’t think it is reasonable to for me to forward the notion that I am not biased. I am. Don’t worry, it is all going work out for Nintendo. I believe that Nintendo will be the dominant game platform in the next generation consoles wars. I think MS and Sony are in for a tough battle for 2nd place. "

and of course his comments about Photo Shop .  In fact, the only Xbox comments I could find from him all revolved around that one Amped pic.  Although he did say he liked Homeworld which is made by Relic who are working on Sigma which is being published by MS . I might be a bit easier on Julian than some because he is obviously open to multi-console development.

I saw Sonys presscon. from E3 live on ZDnet..

I connected when they were talking about Jak and Daxter.. So I didnt know which one of them were Jason Rubin..

Was it the guy who had trouble speaking. (like "um.. we added som textures here... ummmm..")
Or the other one ????

Anybody know?