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Who would win in a fight???

piderman
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olverine
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« on: June 05, 2001, 12:56:32 AM »
if this has been done before, can someone close it please, otherwise, read on...

i would like to know your opinion on whether Spiderman could beat Wolverine, or Wolverine would win, clearly, i think Spidey would win

ill post a small article i wrote for Ryu\'s own site

SPIDERMAN vs. WOLVERINE


The hotly debated clash of comic book heroes. But who would win? Well I think its pretty obvious what the result would be. But, we\'ll have an analysis of the statistics of both \'people\'.


Spiderman:


Super Agility

Webbing

Super Strength

Can stand on walls etc.

Extremely intelligent

Spider sense


Wolverine:


Super Agility

Claws

Adamantium bones

Heals quickly

Heightened senses


But on the con side, Wolverine is extremely old, so this costs him quite a bit of ground. Well, who would win? Obviously the answer is Spiderman. With agility exceeding wolverines, greater speed and power would allow a quick exit (or a hit and run) and a retreat to set his plan into motion. While wolverine could track him down easily, spiderman can go onto walls and use his webbing to get to places almost inaccessible by Wolverine. And even if Wolverine did reach Spiderman, Spidey\'s spider sense would warn him so Wolverine couldn\'t even touch him. But that helps spiderman retreat, how can he win the fight? Easy, his webbing. But before you say anything about how wolverine can use his claws to cut spidermans webbing remember this; If spiderman webs up wolverines chest, upper arms and forearms wolverines claws are rendered useless. Why? Wolverine would no longer be able to move his arms. All his claws would be good for would be cutting the side of his thighs. Spiderman could simply web up his lower legs, stopping his mobility, and web his face, blinding him. Now the tricky part. Killing Wolverine. Wolverines adamantium bones are hard to crack, and his fast healing doesn\'t help anyway. How does spidey do it. Well, when Wolverine is immobilised (and suffocating mind you, another easy way) spidey could simply use his super strength to rip flesh away, exposes what\'s inside. Sound gruesome and corny, well... it\'d at least be cool to see. Maybe thumbs through Logans eyes (Evil Dead style) and into his brain. Or do it the easy way by webbing up Logans face and suffocating him to death


How could wolverine even compete. Anyone got any suggestions? well, type away

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2001, 02:40:20 AM »
spiderman with superstrength???? no way!! Wolvey would take him for strength any day of the week!!

Spideys cartridges are limited, eventually the webbing will wear off. It\'ll have to be long distance attacks, cos if he gets close to wolvey he\'s gone. A long distance webshot could be easily avoided or cut by his claws. When he runs out, he\'s done for, wolvey would tear him apart in close combat.

Wolfvey wins hands down
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2001, 02:43:39 AM »
Wolverine would slaughter Spiderman, no doubt.

Even though Wolvey is old, his healing factor retards his aging, thereby nullifying his age altogether.  One hit is all Wolverine would need, and believe me, he would get it.

And yeah, Spiderman is stronger than Wolverine, but not a better fighter.

Spiderman is a dopey, picture taking kid, whilst Wolverine is a trained assassin.

Also, does anyone have the Wolverine vs. Batman comic anywhere?  I would love to see it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2001, 03:10:40 AM »
Spiderman has super strength

Wolvey\'s healing process retarded his aging, but he is still no where near as hifit, healthy or powerful as he used to be

Spiderman is a supersmart scientist, not a dumb photographer

remember, even if spidey did get in close, he still outmatches wolvey in agility and speed, plus his spider sense is FAR superior to wolvies hightened senses...Wolvie would NOT get a hit in, Spidey is too good...and once in close, the webbing would just ruin Wolvies day...goodnight fellas

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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2001, 03:15:19 AM »
hahahaha, Wolverine would get worked so damn hard.

You all tell us that Wolverine has healing power, but ITS NOT INSTANT. It still takes him time to re-cuperate after being thoroughly hammered by a senior citizen or something.

Spidey is too quick, he\'d be straight in there, *biff* *bam*, lights out wolverine.

I have the Marvel Super Heros screenshots to prove that spidey is the bomb.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2001, 03:16:21 AM »
You make out as if he could move at the speed of light. Not so, he\'s fast, but not THAT fast. Wolvey may have a hard time hitting him, but it\'d happen, no worries about that.

Spidey\'s main atillery is limited, whereas wolveys healing powers and adamantium claws are not (unless magnetos sitting in the corner of the room ;) )

ANYWAY, wolvey would easily be able to take him out. And being a super smart genius of science WON\'T save him from a king hit from Wolvey. And don\'t go saying he\'s gonna make some crazy potion that renders the world useless and aligns all the planets so he can pull some mystical feat of wonder, because NO potions are allowed. Wolvey would tear him to shreds. One hit, and it\'s goodnight Irene.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2001, 03:22:07 AM »
BAH, you have no arguement, your ENTIRE arguement is "one hit and he is gone"

bah, one hit from spideys webbing and you can say goodbye to your precious wolverine...and that is much more likely, as wolverine wouldnt get a hit in on Spidey...spidey can climb up to a roof, on building tops, where Wolvey CANT access...and even IF wolvey caught up with Spiderman, spidermans spidersense would go off, letting him avoid this potential "one hit"

"You make out as if he could move at the speed of light. Not so, he\'s fast, but not THAT fast. Wolvey may have a hard time hitting him, but it\'d happen, no worries about that. "

he is MUCh faster, and MUCH more agile than Logan is

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2001, 03:37:48 AM »
ME no argument, no way dewd. You make out as if Spiderman is a super saiyan or something. He\'s no THAT FAST. Sure, he\'s quick, he\'s agile, but NOT THAT FAST. If wolvey kept a constant strafe with ONE arm up, then he could continuously cut the bolts, and with his one arm up, there\'s no way that the bolt could wrap his entire body clamping his arms against his body, therefore he could always cut loose if he was consumed

His cartridges DON"T last forever, it wouldn\'t take long at all for him to run out. So many episodes of the show he ran out, using minimal amounts of cartridge fluid, never in the show has he kept a constant stream of it, cos he\'d RUN OUT.

When that happens, it would be down to close combat, and unless spidey learns to teleport, then he\'s NOT going to be able to avoid every strike from logan. Spidey may be intellectual, but in the ways of battle logan is a veteran. He would win.
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2001, 03:43:02 AM »
"If wolvey kept a constant strafe with ONE arm up, then he could continuously cut the bolts, and with his one arm up, there\'s no way that the bolt could wrap his entire body clamping his arms against his body, therefore he could always cut loose if he was consumed
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ONE arm up?  please...Spiderman is firing two bolts at him (at constantly changing angles) while logan is running as fast as he can from side to side trying to keep his ballance....he COULD NOT DO THAT.  the bols would hit him.  how could holding up one arm stop two bolts coming from different directions.  the only way he could stop the bolts would be by having arms that moved at lightning speeds, and even then he couldnt do it.  Spidey can also turn his webbing into a spray, slowing wolvey up, using his other arm as a bolt to tie him up.  HE COULD NOT AVOID THE WEBBING

IF he had to change cartridges, he would simply retreat to a safe spot, somewhere on a roof top, where logan couldnt get to him, and refill them

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2001, 03:52:29 AM »
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IF he had to change cartridges, he would simply retreat to a safe spot, somewhere on a roof top, where logan couldnt get to him, and refill them


Well firstly, who says this is an urban setting. Clearly in this scenario this can only be taken as spidey fleeing from battle. If it were not in an urban situation with no buildings, spidey would be in considerable trouble. And as I said to you before (yes folks, this debate rages on ICQ as well), spidey CAN NOT constantly strafe at a high pace and fire his bolts STRAIGHT. They bend, it\'s not possible for him to be able to move, and shoot straight. Wolvey could easily use this to his advantage to dodge the bolts on a 3d plane.

As for cutting the bolts, if he comes down, and cuts each bolt coming directly to him against the way they are coming ie. at a 90 degree angle, then the previous section of web that hit him is useless. Therefore, he hardly has to keep moving at the speed of light, he just has to move somewhat quickly, which he CAN do.

If he comes down and cuts the fluid WHILE dodging, then the previous section CANNOT bind him. Spidey will NOT hit 100% of the time, especially if they\'re BOTH moving, which means Wolvey has AMPLE time to free himself from what HAS hit him,  until the point of time where Spideys cartridges run out. If they\'re both on the ground, then spidey is in real trouble. Unless Aunt May comes along to help him, but let me tell you, Aunt May isn\'t gonna  have as much of a chance with wolvey as spidey does ;)
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2001, 06:12:31 AM »
In DeFalco & Castro\'s Time\'s Arrow Trilogy, Wolverine kills Spiderman in an alternate reality; Spidey tries to jump over Wolverine, and Logan guts him in a single swing as he passes overhead.

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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2001, 06:14:25 AM »
hahahha, oh this reminds me so much of the argument we had back at school with Don Alex and FrozenPea, I beleive we covered all this material already, or at least we were up to the "if they were no buildings spiderman would get owned". hahaha.

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You make out as if Spiderman is a super saiyan or something


Now that would be interesting. Goku vs Vegeta vs Spiderman vs Wolverine vs Cell.
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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2001, 07:08:45 AM »
It was a tough choice,but I have to say Spiderman.

The most important thing to do for Spidey is to avoid the claws,once the claws are out of the way Wolfie\'s abilities become severly limited.
And even if he has heightened senses,they are nothing compared to the Spider sense.And Spidey is alot faster and agile than the Wolfster.
I\'d have say they are about equal in strength.The only real advantige that Wolfie has are the claws and the fast healing,the claws can be avoided,ot Spidey can just web them up,if he put\'s enough on both hands he would have a hard time getting it off because the thing is sticky as hell.

So the only problem Spidey has to face is the fast healing.He could web up his face and sufficate him,he could rip off all the flesh as Bobo said.He could gather up alot if refridgerator magnets and laugh at him while he has to pick them off himself :D.But I\'d have to say the suffication is the way to go,web up his face and throw him into the sea.

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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2001, 08:14:56 AM »
Spiderman, for sure.  If you ever read the spiderman books or comics, you would know that he is rarely hit, his spidersense lets him dodge most blows.   He can leap hundreds of feet, and move as fast a wolverine.  I think he would web him up (which wouldn\'t slow down wolverine for but a second or two), but it would be enough time for him to slam him.  

Remember, like superman, spiderman almost never uses his full strength or speed, but when he does, he can toe-to-toe with Venom.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2001, 10:03:40 AM »
First of all Spidey\'s Spidersense is nothing compared to Wolvie\'s Enhanced senses. All it does for crissakes is warn him if somethings about to hit him. Big Whoop. Wolvie could fight Spiderman in the dark using just his sense of smell and hearing. Wolverine\'s age is not a factor due to his healing ability. Spiderman may be young but Wolverine is a TRAINED killer. The Weapon X program more than prepared him for the likes of Spiderman. Spidey is just a smart kid with a lot of strength. Would you rather have a Ninja w/ heightened senses and adamantium claws defend you or Bill Gates with super strength and the ability to stick to walls?

Also Spiderman doesn\'t kill. He is too moral for that. Wolvie kills for fun.

Anyway my vote goes to Wolvie.

As for Gokou he would win and if he started to lose he would just talk to wolverine and spiderman for 3 days while he prepares to transform into the Legendary Super Mega Ultra Saiya-jin 7.(Or something like that :D)
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