Playstation Cell is coming in 2005.....

Originally posted by SonyFan
Uhhh... last I heard. Both Sony and IBM representitives have gone on record as saying that the "Cell" chip they\'re developing (along with Toshiba) is not going to be in the PS3. Their hopes are to get this single chip to be almost on par or just slightly below the preformance of IBM\'s "Deep Blue" supercomputer. Expect the chip to be extreemly expensive and (most likely) not to meet the hopeful 2005 release date... at least for mass market application.

nope they ARE Going ot use Cell in the PS3, and they will also use it with other applications i have an interview in my PSM about the development of Cell, and that is exactly what they said

Whatever happened to Sony\'s big plan for the EE.  Remember they were supposed to be using the ps2\'s architecture to go into different electronic products.  The EE2 was supposed to be coming out in 2002 or 2003, and then the EE3, which would go into the ps3, would come out in 2005 or 2006.

I have another questions too.  With the development of new chips, such as the Cell, will a GPU still be necessary? :cool:

Originally posted by Kenny--73


I have another questions too.  With the development of new chips, such as the Cell, will a GPU still be necessary? :cool:

GPU=Graphic proccesing Unit
If you want to see what the cell is doing then you will have to have a GPU.It puts it on the TV screen.

live the present, forget the future

Originally posted by Adan
live the present, forget the future

That\'s exactly what I\'m going to do, I will erase PS3 or PS Cell out of my memory until 2005.

Originally posted by Vulcan Raven
well said sonyfan.

And who gives a fu*k about the ps3. The ps2 isnt even a year old outside of Japan.

correction, it has been a year in japan. It came out there in may.

[nO-One]

I\'ve said it before,and I\'ll say it again:
The PS.3 will have PS.2 combatability NOT psx combatability
It\'ll be out in 2005,by then psx games will be about 10 years old,there is simply no point in keeping suppirt for 10 year old games.

are there oficial news?? links please

Get back to me in 5 years will ya??

I dont really care now.. its 5 fricking years away..

I will enjoy PS2.. and enjoy PS3 in the future..
Like Adan said, "live the present, forget the future"!

correction, it has been a year in japan. It came out there in may

That\'s why he said outside of Japan. -- Meaning that it\'s not a year old except for in Japan.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.

[asshole]It actually came out March 4 of last year[/asshole]

Originally posted by SonyFan
Uhhh... last I heard. Both Sony and IBM representitives have gone on record as saying that the "Cell" chip they\'re developing (along with Toshiba) is not going to be in the PS3. Their hopes are to get this single chip to be almost on par or just slightly below the preformance of IBM\'s "Deep Blue" supercomputer. Expect the chip to be extreemly expensive and (most likely) not to meet the hopeful 2005 release date... at least for mass market application.

2006 is a more realistic date for mass production, since not only do they have to develop this technology.. but they have to re-tool existing factories and/or build new production plants. This will take time, and we all know what producing a new chip en masse at the last minuite while cutting corners in the re-tooling department does. (EE, PS2 shortages, major profit losses.. ect..) If you think about it... even IBM\'s Gekko for the NGC is taking about 9 months to a year from completion to be produced for the consumer end product.

Not only that.. but think about it. Who can really afford to develop a game for a machine that\'s 1000x as powerful as the PS2? Right now, it costs millions of dollars just to produce the stuff we\'re seeing now. There\'s going to have to be some MAJOR advances in software to make the process hundreds of times more efficent before we\'ll see games that would even begin to take advantage of all that power.

I just don\'t see that happening in the next 4 years.

Well I surprised  Sonyfan. IBM already has the production plants as does SOny and Toshiba, the cell will be based off manufacturing technoligies that are full reliazable by 2005.

Sony has said the cell will be in PS3, while Sony, Toshiba and IBM will also use the technology in other applications besides PS3. This will be the 1st step in getting this techniology into the mainstream as an acceptable architexture.

Developers will learn to cope with the costs of the Next gen developing and there techniques will be perfected more so by the time PS3 becomes a reality.,  a machine 1000x\'s more powerful  doesn\'t have to mean a huge shift in costs. For all we know SOny is working on a GPU with hardware implemented effects to help reduce the costs some which is not necessarily the case with PS2.


I fully 100% expect the cell to be apart of PS3  in 2005 - 2006. WHY

because SOny knows streaming data and broadband content are the key to set top box design. This is the reason for investing heavily inot this technology. What other reason would SOny have for pouring such a large investment inot such a chip. Having  a techology which is supported by applications through Toshiba and IBM as well,  means a damn good possibility of a widely accepted architexture. Which creates  a wider range of user tools and sopftware applications  that also help to reduce overhead in the longrun. Which is a strength of XBox\'s PIII, and PowerPC chip in GC,

I doubt the PS3 will be 1000 x\'s more powerful in a whole but I expect it to be  significantly more  powerful.


Everyone

Why is it such a big deal to discuss the technology of the next Playstation. Some of you appear insulted about discussing this. I love the technology and love discussing it even if it is 5 years away. YOu don\'t have to be apart of the discussion if it insults you, but I don\'t see why anyone here can\'t be curious about the future

Originally posted by ddaryl
I doubt the PS3 will be 1000 x\'s more powerful in a whole but I expect it to be  significantly more  powerful.

I agree. 1000x more powerful is heavily over exaggerated.  That would probably be a 100 years ahead of itself.

Originally posted by ddaryl

Why is it such a big deal to discuss the technology of the next Playstation. Some of you appear insulted about discussing this. I love the technology and love discussing it even if it is 5 years away. YOu don\'t have to be apart of the discussion if it insults you, but I don\'t see why anyone here can\'t be curious about the future

Not insulted. I just dont see the point of disscussing it when we dont really know anything about it yet. When actual figures get released by sony then it will be better to be disscussed then.

Someone could just make up figures and all it takes is someone to believe them and then it will be a big rumour all over the net.

*Shrugs shoulders* Well like I said.. The last I heard. I really haven\'t been keeping up with Cell news since it was first announced.. at which time Sony and IBM had denied that it would be in the PS3. Yes, all three corperations have factories.. but they also need NEW factories, or at least re-tool their old ones, to accomodate Cell production. Remember, Sony and Toshiba both have chip processing plants.. but that didn\'t stop the shortages due to insufficent factories. In fact, didn\'t Sony cut corners on their re-tooling efforts and end up having to use a .18 micron silicon waffer instead of the .13 they are switching to now? Making a bigger waffer means that there\'s more material there that may become corrupted or damaged. That\'s why Sony couldn\'t meet their 1 million unit launch production.. because a crapload of their .18 micron silicon waffers got ****ed up durring production.

So if Sony is planning to use the Cell in the PS3, that means that their research & development is much farther ahead than thay made it sound durring their initial press report. What other significant info is available for the Cell chip? Will it be based off of the EE\'s archetecutre or is it a refinement of the x86? Or in other words.. will developers have to learn a whole new programming standard with the PS3 or will they be able to draw upon their PS2 experiences?

For some reason, I feel that developers won\'t be so willing to pick up another totally new archetecture so soon after they get the PS2 figured out.