Two Things About Xbox!

1) THIS THING IS GOING TO BE HACKED TO PIECES...i mean tech heads are going to have a field day devising new ways for this thing to be twisted...the components are too close to off the shelf for them not to...i must admit it is going to be really fun seeing what hacks they come up with...like it or not this will end up being a valid reason to own an XBOX but...

2)XBOX EMULATORS for PC\'s are a given...every major system to some extent has an emulator out...and the XBOX?no problemo...hmmm an emulator of a console that emulates a pc...ouch!

1:  How do you propose that will happen?

2:  At some point Computers will be powerfull enough to Emu the Xbox but no computer out any time soon will.

I think you have a dated understanding of the Xbox.  Why don\'t you hit up IGN or something along that line and research it?

actually i pulled this from the most recent stuff i could find...understand i am not saying as soon as the xbox comes out but understand a year(maybe later)after it arrives computers will be many generations past the xbox in some terms for example do you think nvidia won\'t come out with a geforce 4,5

do you think ram  standards won\'t jump up to 256, 348?

etc...

not saying the emu\'s will work flawlessly but i think it will be an option

i just checked out ign\'s section on xbox

1) it was still pre E3 info
2) they say on the inside it is a pared down pc

http://xbox.ign.com/news/18801.html


which leads me to think it will be emulated

An xbox emulator would NOT be that hard. All you need is something similar to a "Glide wrapper" which let the UHLE N64 emu run without a voodocard. On top of that, you don\'t need to emulate any console parts. Just write them properly, and emulate a few oppcodes. You\'ll need a DVD drive, fast CPU, NV2a (probably) and a few other things. Maybe an extra HDD

Originally posted by Animal Mother
An xbox emulator would NOT be that hard. All you need is something similar to a "Glide wrapper" which let the UHLE N64 emu run without a voodocard. On top of that, you don\'t need to emulate any console parts. Just write them properly, and emulate a few oppcodes. You\'ll need a DVD drive, fast CPU, NV2a (probably) and a few other things. Maybe an extra HDD

sounds like alot of things that arent out yet....

emulation is never perfect and usually never easy. the x box is extremely powerful, and ti would be very hard to have it emulated on a p3 and geforce 3.

[nO-One]

The biggest setback to concider when it comes to X-Box emulation is the X-Box\'s UMA (United Memory Architecture)

PC\'s don\'t have one single memory scource there is the main ram,vid cards have there own memory etc..

Them you\'ll need about 600MB ram (like a webserver) But it IS possible! You don\'t have to emulate an Xbox because it\'s basically a PC. Just write the oppcodes to your PC. Playing an XB game will be just like playing a PC game...

Xbox sucks

intel plans to have the p3 off the desktop by q1 of next year so... were talking next generation geforce(4?) and a p4 at least....and yep lots oh ram which is getting fairly cheap these days

hey if you just want to play the games an xbox will be the way to go however

if you are already putting together a sweet pc...you might be able to play xbox game on it...

and when you consider that they want consoles to have 5 year life spans and you factor in moore\'s law...pc\'s might be jammin\' out xbox 2-3 years into the cycle.

Originally posted by astroglide
intel plans to have the p3 off the desktop by q1 of next year so... were talking next generation geforce(4?) and a p4 at least....and yep lots oh ram which is getting fairly cheap these days

hey if you just want to play the games an xbox will be the way to go however

if you are already putting together a sweet pc...you might be able to play xbox game on it...

and when you consider that they want consoles to have 5 year life spans and you factor in moore\'s law...pc\'s might be jammin\' out xbox 2-3 years into the cycle.

1:  The Xbox shares a lot of simularities with the PC but the two are very different in the way they work from the user\'s end.

2:  PCs will absolutely be beating the Xbox in terms of graphics in 2 years.  I would say that will be happening by next November.

quote:

1: The Xbox shares a lot of simularities with the PC but the two are very different in the way they work from the user\'s end.


question...how do you mean?

Originally posted by astroglide
quote:

1: The Xbox shares a lot of simularities with the PC but the two are very different in the way they work from the user\'s end.


question...how do you mean?

NP... for starters you have an odd collection of technology; UMA, lack of AGP,  AMD\'s HyperTransport, double vertex engines etc...

Also, when you hear people talking about "scaled down" versions of the Win2K kernal and DX8 it is not exactly correct (although fine for simplicity\'s sake).  While they are both derived from existing technology, they are seriously modified, not just scaled down.

While the Xbox certainly may sound like a PC on the surface, it is a beast all to itself and will cause EMU users and designers all of the same headaches previous consoles have.

[Bobs_Hardware]

it\'d be cheaper to buy an XBox

Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
it\'d be cheaper to buy an XBox

That\'s exactly what I was thinking.  It would end up costing a ton for all of that stuff in order to emulate the XBox.  Just get the XBox if you really want it, instead of trying to rip off MS.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by ElAsesino


That\'s exactly what I was thinking.  It would end up costing a ton for all of that stuff in order to emulate the XBox.  Just get the XBox if you really want it, instead of trying to rip off MS.

but how ****ing awesome would your PC be?  For most consoes to be emulated, its needs to be 4 times more powerful than the console, but then again, with the XBox, it doesnt really need much emulation