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« on: July 22, 2001, 10:54:54 AM »
Ok most of you will find this boring as hell, im just going to tell you what I got upto in the last two days. So i\'d close this now if you aren\'t into fixing computers.

Anyway I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to Windows 2k. I basically don\'t use my PC for games no more (got a PS2 for that), so I wanted some more stability and its ment to be good.

As with most computer things problems arrised, two days of them.

Day 1.

I started by finding all the files on my PC I wanted to keep, and burnt them to a CDr, thankfully this went OK as it was the last CDr I had. I then proceeded to format my 3 gig hard drive and start the Windows 2000 installer.

Thankfully all was going well. I mean I had no errors and although it took 1 hour to completly install I was pleased as some computer errors can take weeks to sort out.

However then my problems arrised.

I found that when selecting 800x600 resolution that my display went haywire, so of course I went onto the internet (in glorious 640x480) in search for both graphics card drivers and monitor drivers. Trying all combinations (some of which caused conflicts with my SCSI card) cured nothing, each attempt taking like 15 minutes. So I spent about 2 hours on this problem when all I needed to do was adjust the monitor. OK im not that dumb I did try it first time but it seemed that it was set so far out that the horizontal, pincushion values etc were like at 500 when the range is 0 - 100. So I literally had to hold the set left button for ages until the stuck 100 value finally started to go down. This is why I didn\'t spot this at first.

Ok so I had my display set up and proceeded to install all the programs, you know mIRC, Office, ICQ etc. I noticed that when doing this my computer at random intervals would just switch off. Seriously it was so strange. I checked the power supply leads, and I presumed that my power supply unit was ok. I tried to work with this problem but it was happening more often. Until it went, or so it seemed...

Day 2

Ok so I finished installing the rest of the applications. I must have been working on this machine for about 7 hours so I was pleased to have it sorted. I installed the last set of applications and rebooted...

The nightmare began.

Once I had rebooted each time I got back into Windows 2000 I would get a message saying that winmgmt.exe was causing errors constantly, I was getting blue screens and worse still the power problem was back alive as ever.

I couldn\'t even get into a normal background as it would shut off before I got anyway. Safe mode wasn\'t much better, the power shut off was reduced but this message would appear like every few seconds.

I spent the latter half of today basically trying different boot combinations, and checking my hard disk for errors. I even attempted to reinstall Windows 2000 as a last resort, however it asked if I wanted to repair so I tired all them options with no luck and finally I tired the reinstall again but when it asked if I wanted to try to repair it first I said no, yet it still seemed to attempted and still failed and therefore I couldnt even get to the install screen.

It seemed like it was format again or nothing.

I had one last chance in Windows and it for somereason was working. I was getting errors but it hadn\'t powered down. So presuming I was against the clock I raced onto the internet searching for solutions. I heard that deleting this folder (it gets recreated when you reboot) sorts the error messages, and flashing my VIA motherboard bios fixes the shut down. So I did. So far touch wood everything is fine.

So its took 2 whole days but I think I finally got a working installation.

Win2k does seem sweet like. So don\'t let my quibbles put you off. Just be prepared for a battle. I mean im not a novice at computers. I know what im doing and its took me 2 whole days!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2001, 03:15:49 PM »
nothin works with windows 2k , not a lot of compatible drivers ! , windows me is far better !
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2001, 06:18:49 PM »
Windows ME....hahah dont make me laugh...I got it when I got my Gateway Computer (BAd Idea.........gateway bad.....). It doesnt save my settings for certasin progarmas ( I like making HAlf-life maps and it doesnt save the settings for WC 3.3) and all sorts of other problems. plus now it is in the shop (not at gateway they take waaaay to long to fix things) my Power supply died on me during a power outage...the UPS might had have had somehting to do wihth it I dunno.....they are fixing the Power supply and checking windows ME for any problems.......so Right now I am on my bro\'s PC till I get it back monday or tuesday.


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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2001, 06:20:49 PM »
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Originally posted by KillaX
Windows ME....hahah dont make me laugh...I got it when I got my Gateway Computer (BAd Idea.........gateway bad.....). It doesnt save my settings for certasin progarmas ( I like making HAlf-life maps and it doesnt save the settings for WC 3.3) and all sorts of other problems. plus now it is in the shop (not at gateway they take waaaay to long to fix things) my Power supply died on me during a power outage...the UPS might had have had somehting to do wihth it I dunno.....they are fixing the Power supply and checking windows ME for any problems.......so Right now I am on my bro\'s PC till I get it back monday or tuesday.


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supposedly Me has the least amount of bugs and next to none of the "blue screens of death."

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2001, 06:27:16 PM »
For the 9x series of Windows, ME is by far the greatest. Now does it compare in stability/power to 2k? No. It all depends on what you want to do, and how much PC power you have. I\'ve been running Whistler for some months now, without a hitch, I\'m loving it.

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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2001, 07:50:56 AM »
windows ME has bsod\'s(blue screens of death) and is very unstable (at least for me).  I endend up having to re-format the harddrive and install about a million new ME drivers.  It\'s working now but AOL still crashes.  My computer is riddled with problems.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2001, 08:04:56 AM »
Windows as a product sucks..  They take very little time in developing their software, they use the consumer as a beta tester.  But its not free beta, you have to pay for it..  And pay a lot..

If any other company released a software package as faulty and buggy as Windows they would be out of business..  But MS gets away with it...  

Windows is good, it works, but it takes a long time to get it to work..  Win98 is just now stable across the board, there are still software revisions comming out, but for the most part, with all the upgrades, its the most stable..  But it does not have all the nice little features of Win2k or ME..  

And now already they are comming out with another windows operating system..  Win XP  which looks like crap, its memory architecure sucks..  ITs going to be a long time before XP is a viable option and stable enough to run..  But it too will be out before its ready and people everywhere will be yelling about security issues, bug issues, hardware incompatability.. ETc etc etc

I run win 98 at home, and Linux..  I run win2K at work and Free BSD..  And linux at work...   2k works well for me At work, but for games or multimedia it sucks...

But we will have have to deal with it as long as MS gets its money and is permitted to create such crapy products..:mad:
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Re: how about this
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2001, 10:41:00 AM »
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Originally posted by kirath
Windows as a product sucks..  They take very little time in developing their software, they use the consumer as a beta tester.  But its not free beta, you have to pay for it..  And pay a lot..

If any other company released a software package as faulty and buggy as Windows they would be out of business..  But MS gets away with it...  

Windows is good, it works, but it takes a long time to get it to work..  Win98 is just now stable across the board, there are still software revisions comming out, but for the most part, with all the upgrades, its the most stable..  But it does not have all the nice little features of Win2k or ME..  

And now already they are comming out with another windows operating system..  Win XP  which looks like crap, its memory architecure sucks..  ITs going to be a long time before XP is a viable option and stable enough to run..  But it too will be out before its ready and people everywhere will be yelling about security issues, bug issues, hardware incompatability.. ETc etc etc

I run win 98 at home, and Linux..  I run win2K at work and Free BSD..  And linux at work...   2k works well for me At work, but for games or multimedia it sucks...

But we will have have to deal with it as long as MS gets its money and is permitted to create such crapy products..:mad:


Actually, it depends on what version of Windows you are running. Windows NT service 5 or 2K are both excellent operating systems.
While the 9x kernel may of not been that great, due to BSOD and illegal operations, it still served its purpose.  It was easy to use and therefor the mass consumer could use it.

The problem MS have found themselves in now is very different. Come October, they will three OS\'s out in the market that are really new. XP, 2K and ME are all new by industry standards. It isn\'t the greatest of situations for MS to put themselves in. Even if XP is a stable OS, people will more and likely not wish to upgrade. MCSE\'s have finally upgraded to the 2K requirements and they sure in the hell won\'t change their network systems to XP.

Long live, OS X.
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2001, 11:03:17 AM »
But see Os X is based off of FreeBSD..  Now that is a nice thing...
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2001, 12:29:30 PM »
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But see Os X is based off of FreeBSD..  Now that is a nice thing...


Personally, I guess I\'m an Apple whore, because I enjoy almost anything Apple does. Though, I do have a 2K machine also..

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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2001, 01:24:32 PM »
Okay, so I\'m not much of a tech head when it comes
to pc\'s, but I\'ll post my win story anyway.
When I got my pc last year I had it run on Win NT4 service
pack 6. I had some major problems later with my cdrom and
cdr drives.
So I decided to switch to Win 2K. A friend of mine helped me out.
It seems that Win 2K does have some minor incompatibilities
with certain VIA motherboards. At first my Creative Geforce 2 GTS
suddenly glitched whenever my cursor was near a window.
Sorted that out a month later when ( phew it\'s about time ! ) new
graphics drivers.
Also my server card seems to be a bit of a problem when booting
up. Sometimes it crashes while booting up. But fortunately nothing serious when it\'s there and while I\'m working.


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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2001, 01:45:44 PM »
I dual-boot with Win 2k/ Win 98.  No problems whatsoever here (thank goodness).  98 is soley for games and minor DV editing/conversions, while 2k is the workhorse for everything else.  Maybe you shoulda tried adding 2k on a 2nd parition instead of doing away with 98 altogether?

Anywho, good luck with your situation.

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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2001, 01:46:10 PM »
I got my gateway within a week of ordering it...the downer was the modem only had one plug.....thank god we got cableModem about 4 months after that.....and the tech support blows goats.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2001, 08:35:49 AM »
IM BACK!

Ok I normally reply faster and I would have if computers wern\'t REALLY ANONYING.

 2 MORE DAYS OF PC HELL

Day 3

Although I had sorted a lot of things out I was getting BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH on bootup constantly no matter what I did. I searched the net looking to try and figure this out. I literally spent from 10 in the morning to 10 at night in front of this PC like a Zombie trying to fix it. I checked for conflicts. Altered cards around etc.

Anyway turned out it was DirectCD causing the blue screens so I uninstalled it and they went but this was after about 10 hours worth of messing.

So my PC was in quite a state, although I had fixed the problem with my PC just switching off, the constant error message and this blue screen of death my sound card had decided to go.

I checked and tried different driver combinations which then bollocked up mmsys.cpl (the multimedia control panel thing). Therefore it was format.

So I formatted.

Day 4

Fresh PC. 3 problems ironed out except the sound one. Loaded up had a mess, installed old drivers, again this messed the machine completly.

Had to format AGAIN - 3rd time, I wasn\'t giving up though.

So about 12pm today I had decided that it was definatly something in the BIOS which must have changed when I flashed it. I had a similar problem in Win98 which was solved by switching off PNP OS. So I did that and I also set IRQ 5 to legacy ISA. I then decided to install the O/S. It was the last chance as if this didn\'t fix it I would have to go back to 98.

Once installed the start music played. I HAD FIXED THE PROBLEM.

Now at 6:30pm AFTER 4 DAYS!!!! I SEEM TO HAVE A WORKING INSTALLATION

Should be good and a lot more stable than 98 but certainly was my expirence not for the faint hearted, shutting off power failure type problem, BSOD on boot, error message every 12 seconds and something with my sound card all fixed. Fresh install all seems great now.

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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2001, 09:31:31 AM »
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Originally posted by kirath
Windows as a product sucks..  They take very little time in developing their software, they use the consumer as a beta tester.  But its not free beta, you have to pay for it..  And pay a lot..

If any other company released a software package as faulty and buggy as Windows they would be out of business..  But MS gets away with it...
But we will have have to deal with it as long as MS gets its money and is permitted to create such crapy products..:mad:
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