PS2 as a DVD player?

My statement is based on a "few" tests in German DVD/Video Mags... they all say, that the stand-alone Players from SONY can "learn a lot" from the newbie PS2 !
BTW: I spoke about a PS2 WITH rgb Fix... with s-vhs it´s not that good for sure...

BTW: I spoke about a PS2 WITH rgb Fix... with s-vhs it´s not that good for sure...  

You can\'t tell the difference between the PS2\'s dvd image quality and a high end Sony Player but you can between rgb scart and s-video!?

I\'m glad you can\'t tell the difference between the PS2 and standalone players, you\'re saving youreself ALOT of money.

Originally posted by THE EYE
My statement is based on a "few" tests in German DVD/Video Mags... they all say, that the stand-alone Players from SONY can "learn a lot" from the newbie PS2

I think you should read this article THX linked to:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_1/dvd-benchmark-sony-ps2-dvd-player-3-2001.html

And then post your links to the German articles you saw.  I\'m curious about what testing methods they used to arrive at their conclusion.  Don\'t worry, I can read German.

When I view a DVD on the PS2, I can see considerable ringing, sometimes known as "edge enhancement" which is much more noticable than on my Toshiba SD3900 or my Sony DVP-NS700P.  This is a shame because so many DVDs are transferred with way too much edge enhancement already.  In addition, the PS2 video image displays very annoying artifacts when it\'s zoomed on a 16:9 display.

I have no doubt that if you connect the PS2 to a average television and hook up the stereo cables to the television\'s internal speakers, you may notice no difference between it and a stand alone DVD player.  If so, that\'s ok; it will work fine for you.  If one had a better television and a home theater receiver, I\'d recommend that they use the PS2 for games and a dedicated player for DVDs.

The most noticible discrepancies in the PS2\'s DVD output, to me, were the colour seemed over saturated, dark scenes suffered terribly (common problem w/ mpeg video) and there were lots of artifacts on the screen.

[videoholic]

Average guy with average needs for DVD it will work fine.

For us junkies, um, no...  Had a disc in it once.  I totally noticed the difference.  Plus I have a pronto remote that I don\'t want to have to re-program.

Coredweller I hope your german is good...

http://www.areadvd.de/hardware/testplaystation21.shtml

Sorry MrWhiteUK, but what is the problem in telling the diff. between rgb scart and s-video ?
...and no sir, I can´t see one between a "High-End" Player and a PS2... and I doubt anyone can actual "see" it !!!

Danke Herr Auge

I\'m going to read that article, honestly.  Unfortunately I\'m leaving for Canada tomorrow, so I don\'t know how soon I can get into it.  It\'s pretty long... and voll mit Fachsprache.  I\'ll enjoy reading it over when I get the chance.

Meanwhile you might want to check out this article for an explanation of Edge Enhancement:

http://home.t-online.de/home/bjoern.roy/Guide_EE/Html/Page_01.htm

Then find a DVD that you know has NO EE, and play it on both the PS2 and another dedicated DVD player.  See if you can notice a difference.  I\'m going to try it myself.

Thanks.

Please don´t call me Herr Auge... sounds weird... I´m not calling you "Mr. Coredweller", do I...?  

I´ve read the article at THX and I must say, that there are a few bugs in it ! First of all he didn´t test the rgb function of the PS2 !
Everybody knows, that the rgb output provides the BEST picture (for Europe that is)...

Have fun with the german-text... and: If in doubt... ASK !

I dont even use it regularly. I borrowed a DVD from my friend and wasnt that impressed. All the special fetures are worthless to. i dot see why some of you go out and buy a dvd for 24.$$ when u can get it for 12 on vhs. i dont plan on buying or renting any dvd\'s. But to answer your Quuestion "is it worth it", of course it is. Its PS2 your buying. Pluss an adiquet DVD player as well.

[videoholic]

Originally posted by Psycomantis101
I dont even use it regularly. I borrowed a DVD from my friend and wasnt that impressed. All the special fetures are worthless to. i dot see why some of you go out and buy a dvd for 24.$$ when u can get it for 12 on vhs.  

Many  reasons,

cause VHS absolutely sucks.

I have only averaged about 8 dollars per dvd and I have well over 100 of them

Cause Pan and Scan is for total idiots

Haven\'t rewound a VHS tape in over 9 years for Blockbuster.

Ah forget, this is a waste of time.  Anyone who wants to compare DVD with VHS is not worth the effort.

Cya

Originally posted by MrWhiteUK
The most noticible discrepancies in the PS2\'s DVD output, to me, were the colour seemed over saturated, dark scenes suffered terribly (common problem w/ mpeg video) and there were lots of artifacts on the screen.

Most have to do with Sony standard RCA A/V cable that packed with the ps2.  Because the "composite" cable were transferring red, blue, green, and luminance through the same cable which limits picture quality!

with s-video cable, it will eliminated dark scenes and give it brightness because s-video cable separated chrominance and luminance.

or best use component video cable or for you UK people, SCART and RGB cables are commonly known cables for tv, they\'re the best, it seperate the three red blue and greeen and luminance (brightness).  This will free of color artifacts and gives accurate and more colors on screen, not to mention higher resolution.

So MrWhiteUK, if your tv have S-video output or SCART or RGB, then buy the ps2 A/V accessory that support it.  You will be shock with the difference

[Evi]

Originally posted by know-it-all-wanna-be


Most have to do with Sony standard RCA A/V cable that packed with the ps2.  Because the "composite" cable were transferring red, blue, green, and luminance through the same cable which limits picture quality!

with s-video cable, it will eliminated dark scenes and give it brightness because s-video cable separated chrominance and luminance.

or best use component video cable or for you UK people, SCART and RGB cables are commonly known cables for tv, they\'re the best, it seperate the three red blue and greeen and luminance (brightness).  This will free of color artifacts and gives accurate and more colors on screen, not to mention higher resolution.

So MrWhiteUK, if your tv have S-video output or SCART or RGB, then buy the ps2 A/V accessory that support it.  You will be shock with the difference

Alright, man...that\'s it. I\'m getting rid of the lame cable that came with my PS2. The visuals are less than stunning and I\'ve seen the difference. It\'s about 10-fold better quality. I don\'t know why Sony packed such stupid cables. Maybe they were trying to save money, I guess.

ost have to do with Sony standard RCA A/V cable that packed with the ps2. Because the "composite" cable were transferring red, blue, green, and luminance through the same cable which limits picture quality!

with s-video cable, it will eliminated dark scenes and give it brightness because s-video cable separated chrominance and luminance.

or best use component video cable or for you UK people, SCART and RGB cables are commonly known cables for tv, they\'re the best, it seperate the three red blue and greeen and luminance (brightness). This will free of color artifacts and gives accurate and more colors on screen, not to mention higher resolution.

So MrWhiteUK, if your tv have S-video output or SCART or RGB, then buy the ps2 A/V accessory that support it. You will be shock with the difference

erm, dood did you read my posts, I use s-vid and HT is one of my main intrests so that is all old news to me. The difference between s-vid and rgb scart is fairly minimal.

I can´t see one between a "High-End" Player and a PS2... and I doubt anyone can actual "see" it !!!

I\'m sorry but that is a ridiculous statement, let me get this right, Sony make DVD players costing 10 times the cost of the PS2, but there is no difference!! Why do they bother.

What about CD players, does the PS2 compare to all high end \'audiophile\' equipment?

As I said before this thread is obviously a group of differing opinions, I have given the PS2 a fair test and to me it seems vastly inferior.

You should be glad, you are at the height of DVD technology (Sony can do no better in your eyes) your saving yerself loadsa $$$



white.

Some times dvd just don\'t play..or they skip through chapters..and the sounds is not up to top quality. AND Yes you may not get all the options and what not. BUT for what it is worth...it is a decent DVD player....I mean you can\'t expect top of the line in a 300$ video game system. It was not meant to compete as a dvd...player..It was meant to compete as a video game...system, but also give us an option to watch dvd movies...and i say it does a decent job..it is much better than any VHS I say.

I´ve read the article at THX and I must say, that there are a few bugs in it ! First of all he didn´t test the rgb function of the PS2 !
Everybody knows, that the rgb output provides the BEST picture (for Europe that is)...

Dude, you should really stop arguing.  If you think the differences between RGB and Component are significant, especially for a 480i source, then you ARE utterly clueless.  Just because you\'re in Europe doesn\'t mean you\'ll be having any better perfomance than anywhere else in the world.

And as for that article, BLEH!!!  I don\'t speak German but I do not see one line graph, frequency level reading, or s/n ratio test.  It is long and seemingly comprehensive, but it\'s comparable to something you\'d find on a gaming website or magazine.

I don\'t wanna heckle you or anything (I really don\'t), but you seem to think the PS2 is a reference player from reading a crummy article on the subject.  Go see it perform on some decent equipment like people from this thread have, instead of telling yourself and others it\'s "superior over all other SONY DVD Players."

humbug!