Author Topic: Tekken 4 Dead Before Birth. (long read) (Read 6846 times)

Evi · « **Reply #30 on:** August 15, 2001, 01:43:05 PM »

This makes me a bit angry. I knew this was going to happen...:rolleyes: I knew there was something iffy about Tekken 4. I could just sense it. I haven\'t played it yet...but now I must to see if this stuff they\'re saying is true...

« **Reply #31 on:** August 15, 2001, 05:40:52 PM »

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Originally posted by EviscerationX
This makes me a bit angry. I knew this was going to happen...:rolleyes: I knew there was something iffy about Tekken 4. I could just sense it. I haven\'t played it yet...but now I must to see if this stuff they\'re saying is true...

Think about it this way. If Namco leaves the 1,2 punch problem in, then they obviously know a way to get around it. If they find out that there really is no way around it, then they would be stupid not to fix such an easy to fix problem.

This news has been scary, but after thinking about it for a while, I have come to the conclusion that Namco will fix the problems and make Tekken 4 the best one yet. It just wouldn\'t make sense for them not to fix it. Why would they work so hard making a game and then let it be ruined by a tiny problem?

« **Reply #32 on:** August 15, 2001, 06:10:00 PM »

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Originally posted by 182Ways

How so? Because they tried something new
Tell me this after you play the game.

You know what 182Ways you just became my favorite, I couldn\'t
agree with you any more, I bet half of you guys haven\'t even played the game and yet your already bashing it. You know what, I glad Namco decided to change some things because if you can remember way back when Tekken Tag was relesed people were saying.."damn they didn\'t change any thing from Tekken 3 but graphics...." but now that Namco changes it you complain. I am highly confident that Tekken 4 will indeed be a wonderful game, not only because the Tekken brand name but the people behind the game that have brought us all the Tekken joy all these years. So guys do me a favor and don\'t judge the game so soon. I don\'t know about you guys but I\'m going to play the game first before I judge anything...sound fair?

Bobs_Hardware · « **Reply #33 on:** August 15, 2001, 08:20:19 PM »

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Bob, you are going to love this!

and love it i did

im still going to like the game...mebbe they will hear the criticism and alter the PS2 version

« **Reply #34 on:** August 15, 2001, 08:53:01 PM »

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Originally posted by GAMES
You know what 182Ways you just became my favorite, I couldn\'t agree with you any more, I bet half of you guys haven\'t even played the game and yet your already bashing it. You know what, I glad Namco decided to change some things because if you can remember way back when Tekken Tag was relesed people were saying.."damn they didn\'t change any thing from Tekken 3 but graphics...." but now that Namco changes it you complain. I am highly confident that Tekken 4 will indeed be a wonderful game, not only because the Tekken brand name but the people behind the game that have brought us all the Tekken joy all these years. So guys do me a favor and don\'t judge the game so soon. I don\'t know about you guys but I\'m going to play the game first before I judge anything...sound fair?

We are not complaining about Tekken 4 being "new." I\'m sure all of us are happy that it has changed a lot. How many of us really want another upgrade? That would be stupid. What we (or I

) am complaining about is the fact that there are some problems with the game that need to be fixed.

Namcoman said that the US was getting version B of Tekken 4, but he is not sure if version B fixes the 1,2 punch problem or tones down Paul any. We will just have to wait and see.

BTW, has anyone got Tekken 4 yet?!! It should be out in some arcades now. I am going to call Nickel Cade tomorrow to see if they have it yet. Then I will be able to test these problems out for myself.

Living-In-Clip · « **Reply #35 on:** August 15, 2001, 09:04:53 PM »

I would just like to point out that the Dead or Alive series has and always will probably play like total crap. Sure, it looks great but it plays like crap. Just my opinion though.

Either way, the Xbox still does not have the amount of quality fighting games as the PS2. Virtua Fighter 4?? HELLO? Capcom Vs SNK 2??? Maybe even Soul Calibur 2. The Xbox has what? Oh yes, Breast-Fest aka DOA3.

:rolleyes:

I could care less how Tekken 4 plays, as I\'ve grown tired of the series. Still, I truly doubt Namco won\'t fix it these problems. IT only makes common sense that they will , after hearing the out-rage against it.

« **Reply #36 on:** August 15, 2001, 09:20:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I could care less how Tekken 4 plays, as I\'ve grown tired of the series.

But now it has changed a whole lot. That is one reason why the top Korean/Japanese people hate it. They spent so much time mastering previous Tekkens, and now they have to learn something completely new. The combo system is a lot different now, and most TTT combos don\'t work anymore. Everyone has to start from scratch now. I can\'t wait until I can do some insane wall combos.

« **Reply #37 on:** August 16, 2001, 02:26:53 AM »

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But now it has changed a whole lot. That is one reason why the top Korean/Japanese people hate it. They spent so much time mastering previous Tekkens, and now they have to learn something completely new. The combo system is a lot different now, and most TTT combos don\'t work anymore. Everyone has to start from scratch now

Boo f\'ckin hoo. Tekken was getting stale, it\'s about damn time Namco did something to change the gameplay. So everyone has to learn new techniques, big deal. That\'s the way of life, did you want Tekken to be the same for all eternity? I personally hated the cheap @$$ juggles in Tekken and I\'m glad they toned it down. Those whining Koreans/Japanese should stfu and learn how to play again. I welcome a brand new Tekken, hell, I\'m more excited for it now.

/ dm /

« **Reply #38 on:** August 16, 2001, 07:57:03 AM »

Although I ve been missing in the army lately and didnt have time to post I got some chances to visit some sites and download some T4 videos.

I ve noticed too from some movies in Tekken Central that the fights are messed up.The game lost its depth because of the increase in speed and the ease to perform many destructive moves without skill.
The most depth Tekken IMO was TTT.In TTT the characters were as balanced as ever.T4 is even worse than DOA2.

Also some of the swifts and sight steps look VERY messy some times(very clear in the movies at Tekken Central).

I ve been expecting a more in-depth Tekken4 from Namco and its unfortunate it ended up into a **** sequel:(.

I think the first thing Namco should change in T4 is the speed.The human brain can react THAT fast.
I wonder if you can even do "chickens" in that speed.

NAMCO BETTER FIX IT!!!

« **Reply #39 on:** August 16, 2001, 08:15:58 AM »

You can say whatever you want about the Koreans/Japs being whiners, but if 1,2 is overpowering w/o a retaliating WS move then that says to me sloppy programming. And if Sauer is right about the strict timing of SS\'s that require decent sticks, sadly the US has a shortage of these. Arcade operators either don\'t care or don\'t know where to get good sticks (happ controls makes some of the best).

I really hope Namco fixes this as sime have mentioned.

§ôµÏG®ïñD · « **Reply #40 on:** August 16, 2001, 09:54:10 AM »

I think it\'s a good idea that namco are changing the tekken series in some ways. Having the game play the exact same as the other tekkens is pretty boring. I wanna have tekken4. but not the every same moves etc from the older tekkens.

Sounds too me these doods are just too used to the older tekkens and they don\'t wanna learn to change there Strategy.
There probably trying to use there OLD strategy too get outta trouble, cause that\'s what there used too.. Welp, guess it doesn\'t work.

anyway

Tekken isn\'t the only fighter that ps2 has and will have...

I think even if t4 was a flop. there are plenty of other fighters too keep me entertained.

Bobs_Hardware · « **Reply #41 on:** August 16, 2001, 03:40:47 PM »

damn your lucky soulgrind...see what it says...less advanced players have a chance against masters in tekken 4...now you might actually have a chance at beating me...lucky you

« **Reply #42 on:** August 16, 2001, 06:25:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
damn your lucky soulgrind...see what it says...less advanced players have a chance against masters in tekken 4...now you might actually have a chance at beating me...lucky you

LOL. I say the same thing, but I\'m replacing "soulgrind" with "Bobby."

« **Reply #43 on:** August 16, 2001, 07:23:52 PM »

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Originally posted by datamage

Boo f\'ckin hoo. Tekken was getting stale, it\'s about damn time Namco did something to change the gameplay. So everyone has to learn new techniques, big deal. That\'s the way of life, did you want Tekken to be the same for all eternity? I personally hated the cheap @$$ juggles in Tekken and I\'m glad they toned it down. Those whining Koreans/Japanese should stfu and learn how to play again. I welcome a brand new Tekken, hell, I\'m more excited for it now.

/ dm /

no one is complaining about learning new things. they just feel that 1~2 is way to strong. you say you hate juggles i guess you would rather have someone 1~2 you to death. sure learning new stratagies is cool but whats the point some scrub can can destroy any strat you have by abuseing 1~2. i mean if you know how to beat 1~2 feel free to share but keep in mind that it trackes both ways. you could try ducking but it recovers so quickly that hardly anything you can do will hit them before they can block. plus if you even try to fight back with a ws attack they can interupt you with another 1~2. the game has been reduced to a jab fest. maybe that is cool to you but most of us want tekken to be something more then that.

« **Reply #44 on:** August 16, 2001, 09:24:02 PM »

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Originally posted by littleogre

no one is complaining about learning new things. they just feel that 1~2 is way to strong. you say you hate juggles i guess you would rather have someone 1~2 you to death. sure learning new stratagies is cool but whats the point some scrub can can destroy any strat you have by abuseing 1~2. i mean if you know how to beat 1~2 feel free to share but keep in mind that it trackes both ways. you could try ducking but it recovers so quickly that hardly anything you can do will hit them before they can block. plus if you even try to fight back with a ws attack they can interupt you with another 1~2. the game has been reduced to a jab fest. maybe that is cool to you but most of us want tekken to be something more then that.

Being an expert Tekken Tag player at the arcades, I totally agree with what u said.

I havent played Tekken 4 yet, but am willing to learn new strategies for sure.

But from what I heard about the pokes interrupting everything, it very dissapointing.

What the point of wasting your time learn new strategies, when a beginner who has never played Tekken comes in and does 1,2 , 1,2 1,2 and beats u.

Of course u can do it back, but that will get boring.

Hello

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