Visual Concepts games on PS2: Utter Crap :(

the Screens are just dark as hell.  That\'s why they look ****tier than they actually are.  Trust me.  Even at this stage it would looko better on your T.V.

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Originally posted by Animal Mother
Maybe I\'m being paranoid, but maybe Microsoft is paying companies including Sega to create inferior games for PS2.

You\'re paranoid. There is no grand conspiracy. VC is just having difficulties developing for the PS2 probably and this is their first try.

After reading the hand on preview of NFL2k2 I have to say there are some impressive features

but I\'m not very familiar with Madden as well  to determine whats better over the other

Umm nba2k2 is early and it looks great. UMMM nba live 2001 from ea looked like pure crap and it played like pure crap. And NFL2K2 looks good in it\'s early days. Madden has been crap for a while now. Ea just ports over the previous madden with a 5% upgrade in graphics.

Quit the your crying anybody who has played any sega sports games knows they blow ea out the box. I can\'t wait to see what  visual concepts does with xbox.

Quddus

that\'s a naive statement

EA sports games are generally based on simulation and upgrades the game some each year. It make 0 (zero) sense to take a football game enjoyed by million based on simulation of the sport and completely revamp it  to make a few  people  like you happy while alienating the million  who do like the game.

There are  quite a few upgrades in graphics as well as  gameplay animations and other isssues worked out of the 2001 version games.

I\'m sure Sega sports games are great, but I get sick of hearing this lame ass this is better then that crap being spewed by people who think that thier opinion is the supposed intelligent one.

People love EA sports games, just cause you don\'t doesn\'t mean they\'re not great at what they do, and lots of people would  eagerly disagree with you.

I prefer the Madden 200(x) over NFL2k(x) because I think it has a bit more of a realistic feel to it. Some people say Madden is too slow, but it\'s quite possible that NFL is just too fast and arcade-like.

well iam dissapointed..i thought they would do a whole new engine for the PS2...i am sure is the same engine just optimized...i am sure it will play great.........

Originally posted by ddaryl
Quddus

that\'s a naive statement

EA sports games are generally based on simulation and upgrades the game some each year. It make 0 (zero) sense to take a football game enjoyed by million based on simulation of the sport and completely revamp it  to make a few  people  like you happy while alienating the million  who do like the game.

There are  quite a few upgrades in graphics as well as  gameplay animations and other isssues worked out of the 2001 version games.

I\'m sure Sega sports games are great, but I get sick of hearing this lame ass this is better then that crap being spewed by people who think that thier opinion is the supposed intelligent one.

People love EA sports games, just cause you don\'t doesn\'t mean they\'re not great at what they do, and lots of people would  eagerly disagree with you.

Umm when I say port the same game I am talking about in terms of AI. I mean the AI in madden 2001 was madden 2000 with shinnier graphics. I mean you think at some point in the game the AI would start to read the blitz. I mean you can run the same play back to back and the computer will never react differently to it.

I mean at least the characters in madden 2002 are not those fat little linebackers we saw in 2001. And all the reports I have heard of madden 2002 say it is the same as 2001. I have checked site after site because I was thinking of getting the game.  

And you seem to have not even played a sega sports game. I am a die hard EA sports fan from way back ddarly so when I JUDGe it is because there sports games use to be awesome. And I know EA can create a awesome nba live and madden game. I just feel like they have dropped the ball lately with there sports titles.

But NBA STREETZ is a very fun game.

QuDDus


Can\'t vouch for the AI in Madden cause I never played  Madden, nor have I played any Sega sports games. Heck I never played EA sports games besides EA Big games

I just get tired of the debate of whose better Sega or EA. SO many people swear by Madden, others by Sega I think both  games from what I read in these debates have strengths and weaknesses


The reason  I don\'t play sports games is  cause I have no body to play with    Sports games suck playing alone, and all my buds live back in NY or have moved to other parts of the country like  me

We\'ll see, but so many people give Madden 2002 real high grades

I am a Sega fanboy.

QuDDuS is correct with the Madden thing though, the AI doesn\'t learn based on how you do stuff. with NFL2K2, if you tried to do that, the computer would kill you, it learns how you play and changes the way it defends or plays offense.

where did you read about 2K2 features, ddaryl? I would like to read up on \'em.


Eric Jacob

go here young man

http://ps2.ign.com/previews/16453.html

thanks, and I must say, wizow!!!

I must have, too bad it won\'t have online play (unless miracles DO happen)




Eric Jacob

Hmmm...can\'t we all play nice here? :rolleyes:

Anyways, these Sega screens don\'t look all that bad. True, in these particular shots, we have the classic "PS2 problems", but at the same time, still not that bad as some were implying.

As for which sports games are better, Sega or EA, don\'t care. The only sports game I\'ve played, Midway\'s NFL Blitz (we all know that this game isn\'t really serious sports games) and EA Big\'s SSX. Not exactly a sports fan.