The topic of science no. 2

This week I will tell you all something that is pretty hard to understand.
I will explain why a apple is falling down to the ground when you drop it. You might think you know the answer. It falls because earth gravity attracts the apple and that is the reason why the apple is falling down.
This is wrong. In school you learn that a apple is falling down because the earth attracts it, its funny because they teach you something that is wrong. Why? Because its the most simple way to explain it. Isaac Newton told us that a apple is falling to the ground because of the force between the apple and the earth. This is why people thinks its a force that makes the apple fall. Its not. If you wants to know why the apple is falling to the ground then keep om reading, if you are not interested, stop reading now.


Ok. according to General Relativity Theory (GRT) gravity affects time. A couple of thing we need to know.
1. Gravity affects time. A clock in the air is going a bit slower than a clock on the ground. I can show you why but not now( lots of text).
2. The amount of energy most always be constant in a close system.
3. Gravity affects light.

Ok. First imagine this. You have a spaceship that has flashlights all around it in all directions. If you turn the flashlights on there will be a sphere around your spaceship that expands with the speed of light. a lightsphere.
Because of the fact that you can not travel faster than light this lightsphere represent your future. you can never reach the outside of the sphere. this sphere is your future.
Imagine that your spaceship is traveling in towards a black hole.
the black hole has a lot of powerful gravity and will start to attract the light from your sphere. your perfect sphere is not round anymore its more like a elipse. the closer you get to the black hole the more the sphere becomes a elipse. when you reach the event horizon the elipse is like a triangle with your spaceship at the base of it and the top of the triangle is in the hearth of the black hole.
Now remember that the "sphere " represent your future. Now you see that your future is just in one direction, right in to the hearth of the black hole. The future of my spaceship is affected by the gravity from the black hole.
Of course earth doesnt affect the apple in this extreme way, but it does affect it alittle bit meaning that the sphere around the apple is like a elipse, but very little. the future of the apple is more likely to go towards earth. (In nature everything always follow the siplyiest way, look at water.)
But why doesnt the apple just stay still in the air???
Because like I said before gravity affects clocks. Gravity affects time. A clock in the air is going a bit slower than a clock on the ground. You can see it like this. around the earth there is timeshields with different speed. close to ground the clock is going with a speed that is faster than a clock that is up in the air.
Now think of the apple upp in the air. There is several timeshields going throw the apple (no depends on how small we do them). this means that time is going a little bit slower at the top of the apple than at the bottom of the apple. Interesting but what does it mean? It means that the apple is losing energy. because of the fact that the time is different on the top and bottom of the apple it is losing energy. the energy has to be constant but when time goes slower at top of the apple it has to do somethig to keep the energy constant, but what? it cant change colour or start singing, the only thing it ca do is to start moving. But when it starts moving it doesnt help because now the time on top of the apple is still going  slower than the botton, it has to increase the speed it must accelerate. If you use Einsteins equations to calculate how much the apple has to accelerate to compensate the energy the figure 9.80065 m/s^2 arrives. interesting.

So a apple is falling down to the earth because the energy has to be constant and the apple has to accelerate to keep the energy constant otherwise it would have lost energy and that is forbidden. it falls down because the future of the apple is affected towards the earth. So gravity is actually not a force.
I know my english isnt very good.
Any thoughts?

Gravity affects time. A clock in the air is going a bit slower than a clock on the ground.

Is that true?

Clocks do not make time, they merely read it. With normal, gear and spring clocks, it is understandable that they may record differently in lower gravity, because they are precision made, and of course made with normal gravity in mind. Up higher the gravity is lessened on the mechanisms, and that would explain why time appears slower. Slight variations in the contruction of the clock can also produce varied results, so using a regular clock is not worth it.

Electronic clocks on the other hand, have no moving parts, they are completly solid state. They might also experience variations in lower gravity if gravity affects the flow of electrons (I\'m not sure if it does). If that is not the case, you have to consider that electric clocks tell time based on a set mathemathcal formula that is programmed onto the chip inside the clock. If the chip\'s operation is physically unaffected by gravity, it will tell the same time in any level of gravity.

Great read Bossieman!!

I enjoy your Science Posts.. Keep coming with new info

Originally posted by Weltall


Is that true?

Clocks do not make time, they merely read it. With normal, gear and spring clocks, it is understandable that they may record differently in lower gravity, because they are precision made, and of course made with normal gravity in mind. Up higher the gravity is lessened on the mechanisms, and that would explain why time appears slower. Slight variations in the contruction of the clock can also produce varied results, so using a regular clock is not worth it.

Electronic clocks on the other hand, have no moving parts, they are completly solid state. They might also experience variations in lower gravity if gravity affects the flow of electrons (I\'m not sure if it does). If that is not the case, you have to consider that electric clocks tell time based on a set mathemathcal formula that is programmed onto the chip inside the clock. If the chip\'s operation is physically unaffected by gravity, it will tell the same time in any level of gravity.

It has nothing to do with what kind of clock you are using. Time itself goes slower up in the air. A pilot is actually living longer than us (10^-5 s or so).

I\'ve never heard gravity described like that Bossieman.  It is very interesting.  Tell me if I get this right.  An object has to have a constant amount of energy.  The lower part of the object is losing energy faster than the higher part of the object.  So the object falls to compensate for the loss of energy.

I have two questions.  What happens when the object hits the ground?  It can\'t lose energy because that is forbidden, but it can\'t compensate for the lost energy anymore because it can\'t drop anymore.  So what happens to it and its energy?

And the other question is somewhat related:

If there were two people in two different cars, and one drove with the earth\'s rotation, and the other drove against the earth\'s rotation, would the person going with the rotation age slower?

We can and will travel faster than light....Einstein is and always has been wrong about that. He did not have the knowledge we have now on the subject, so i\'m not trying to insult him...

Oh, I didn\'t know you were such a genius Megiddo. Perhaps you could enlighten us all with your overwhelming amount of knowledge?

Originally posted by IronFist
I have two questions.  What happens when the object hits the ground?  It can\'t lose energy because that is forbidden, but it can\'t compensate for the lost energy anymore because it can\'t drop anymore.  So what happens to it and its energy?

And the other question is somewhat related:

If there were two people in two different cars, and one drove with the earth\'s rotation, and the other drove against the earth\'s rotation, would the person going with the rotation age slower?

When the object hits the ground the kineticenergy will be transformed to friction and heat. So now the energy is still constant. The object is trying to push down .but it cant move because the ground is in its way. the object has to get some kind of energy but what?!? Answer : potential energy.


And for the question no 2. Correct!! this has been proven with 2 airplaines going round the world. The Atomclocks did not show the same time when the planes landed.

First off Weltall, gravity does affect time.  Gravity affects almost everything like  Bossieman said.

I have some interesting diagrams that was given to me by an MIT professor, he explained all this to me a long time ago, I could barely understand him, but it was enough to open my mind...

Bossieman\'s explanation is missing a few key points, but Im sorry, I don\'t know them well enough to explain them.  I will try and find all my notes on this subject this week....

And for Megiddo...  You can not go faster then the speed of light..  Well not at least right now, maybe someone someday will figure out an equation, or some equation to bend around Einstiens, but not today..

Here is very very basic statement...  When mass accelerates toward the speed of light its mass increases.  So they closer you get to the speed of light the more and more your mass will increase..  So at some point you mass with reach infinite mass, and it will take infinite amount of energy to accelerate you.  This Eintsien predicted and this has now been proven.

If someone figures a way past it then great, but right now, in our life time I doubt we will ever see anything go past the speed of light...

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Interesting read.  At least my head didn\'t blow up on this one.  I think I actually understand what you are trying to say.  

I need to go take a nap now.  I\'m drained.

Originally posted by kirath
Bossieman\'s explanation is missing a few key points, but Im sorry, I don\'t know them well enough to explain them.  I will try and find all my notes on this subject this week....

 

Of course im missing a few key points. Like Mathematics and some other things that is hard for ordinary people to understand. This is for the ordinary people that wants to know some heavy stuff without all maths and other crayzy stuff.

Okay then, I won\'t find my notes...  I was not neccisarily talking mathematics..  But there are some baisc arguments that I thought I might bring up..

If you still want me to I will, I just need to find the info that I have...

Originally posted by kirath
Okay then, I won\'t find my notes...  I was not neccisarily talking mathematics..  But there are some baisc arguments that I thought I might bring up..

If you still want me to I will, I just need to find the info that I have...

please, be my gueest.

Good read Bossie,
hmmm, how is gravitiy generated that is what i\'m currious about.

I mean are there small particals that are attracted to our atoms, and weight them down?

Originally posted by Toxical
Good read Bossie,
hmmm, how is gravitiy generated that is what i\'m currious about.

I mean are there small particals that are attracted to our atoms, and weight them down?

Read the end of my mainpost and you will find the answer there.
Materia  affects space-time so the spacetime becomes curved and therefor "timeshields" appears, a.s.o