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Offline IronFist
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« on: October 10, 2001, 09:14:59 PM »
There is a great article over at the Gaming Age forums written by "Ned Flanders God of Men" discussing Nintendo\'s possible Achilles Heel (or Achilles heels).  I think it\'s a great read that really puts this console war into perspective.  I advise all of you to read and, and then post your opinions/impressions of it and if you think Nintendo has what it takes to survive.

http://pub69.ezboard.com/fgamingageforumsfrm10.showMessage?topicID=12312.topic

Here are a couple good quotes from it:
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Nintendo, I don\'t understand how me and millions of other people like me can have made you the multibillion dollar company that you are and you turn your backs on us just because the younger Pokemon crowd is making you more cash nowadays.

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...this is NOT the PS2 (Tekken Tag/Madden/SSX launch) against a spottily purchased/supported DC (RIP), this is against 2 MAJOR competitors, one who is spending out the ass (although it is looking to have a ho-hum launch lineup as well) and the other is virtually dug in to the market and buliding momentum.
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2001, 02:51:35 AM »
I don\'t see why everyone is so pissed at nintendo for not beig mature. I mean you had sega, and sony fighting for the same audience. And sony won that battle. So nintendo chose to go after a crowd that nobody was catering to and they prove you can be successful. If nintendo puts out a couple of mature titles to go with what they got that would be fine for me. They make great games. And now that xbox and sony will do battle for the same crowd why should nintendo jump in.

Ppl need quit all this *****ing you got sony and now xbox too feel all your teenage needs.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2001, 04:45:44 AM »
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Ppl need quit all this *****ing you got sony and now xbox too feel all your teenage needs.


yeah but wouldnt it be great if \'luigis mansion\' was a bit more serious...i mean the ghost houses in super mario world had cool music and although they were 2d,  they were a bit freaky going through..and in mario 64 the little carnival music was freaky and got stuck in your head...it just didnt have the comical theme that luigis mansion has...

wouldnt it be cool if the new zelda looked a tad more serious?
atleast like the artwork from ocarina of time or the gameboy color ? or if link didnt look like a powerpuff girl ?
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2001, 04:58:30 AM »
DIE NINTENDO DIE!

oh sorry, got carried away
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2001, 05:05:24 AM »
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DIE NINTENDO DIE!

oh sorry, got carried away


funny man,  if i were to say that,  id get raped by LIC or some other nintendo defender....

but since you have the power to ban people,  (or correct me if im wrong)...people fear you.  :sconf:
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2001, 06:32:04 AM »
noone should fear me, i havent banned ANYONE for speaking out against sony, hell even i do sometimes

everyone knows i HATE nintendo for abandoning us "mature" gamers during the N64, and now with the gamecube
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2001, 06:39:23 AM »
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Ppl need quit all this *****ing you got sony and now xbox too feel all your teenage needs.

So you agree with Ned Flanders God of Men?  That is what he was saying.  Nintendo has lost the majority of the people who grew up with them.
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2001, 06:39:55 AM »
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everyone knows i HATE nintendo for abandoning us "mature" gamers during the N64, and now with the gamecube


yeah well...same thing happened to me when the n64 came out and silly me gives them the benefit of the doubt this time around,  and they let me down again with the gamecube...so to hell with nintendo.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2001, 07:14:16 AM »
I don\'t know why Nintendo can\'t cater to both 10 year olds and 18 year olds... would it hurt their image so bad?

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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2001, 07:34:42 AM »
ehhe, he\'ll kill for for saying this
but mm is a *cough* little past 18
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2001, 11:06:42 AM »
Like any other smart business Nintendo took a look at the competition it faced and had to decide where its strengths were, which group(s) Nintendo gaming systems appeal to and the reasons why those customers might choose GC over the rest. At some point during development of GC games it became clear, as nice as their games looked, they would not outshine in a big way the graphics of the only other serious rival system, the PS2. With finite first party resources the decision to focus those resources solely on content aimed at the younger crowd was set, knowing the core of their older loyal fan base would purchase the GC regardless. Leaving open for third parties the tempting prospect of a mature void left to fill. My guess is with certain restrictions, very limited blood, gore and sex appeal. In other words, nothing that might upset the vast majority of those they expect to be purchasing their latest console, Mom and Dad.

That\'s my take anyway. It was a practical decision dictated by market forces, gauged by what helped them to be number one in the past and where most of their revenue is coming from now. Time will tell if leaving behind a segment of loyal fans was the best move. Keep in mind, even without the babyish version of Zelda, odds are most of their older fan base had moved on anyway.

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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2001, 12:41:08 PM »
mm is 25 years old... AGGGHHHHH NOOOOOO *is eaten by Clyde*

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Kay... You know, if you think about it, Nintendo has NEVER been one to make many Mature games, the only difference is that SNES and NES had third parties to do that, N64 did not. N64 wasn\'t that great a system, but it did have some gems nonetheless.

Also remember, a lot of "mature" games really suck.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2001, 01:37:05 PM »
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So you agree with Ned Flanders God of Men?  That is what he was saying.  Nintendo has lost the majority of the people who grew up with them.



Nintendo has always been kiddy. They where never too mature. So ppl *****ing about nintendo abandon me the mature gamer needs to look back on the nintendo\'s history. The times change and ppl wanted more violent games.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2001, 03:15:28 PM »
They never had too many exciting games IMO. That\'s why I chose PS2 because they had games that I found fun. GT3, MGS2, Syphon Filter (PSX), TimeSplitters, DMC, FF series and the list goes on.
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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2001, 05:17:32 PM »
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So you agree with Ned Flanders God of Men?  That is what he was saying.  Nintendo has lost the majority of the people who grew up with them.
I didn\'t grow up with Nintendo, so I don\'t care.  (yes, I\'m a little older than 18 too)  Nintendo wants to market predominantly to kiddies and parents, ok fine.  That just means I won\'t be buying one.  Doesn\'t hurt me because I have the PS2 and maybe the XBox.  I\'m not sure why so many get worked up over this.  I can only imagine it\'s because some people have good memories of the Nintendo name brand from their youth.  

I think Heretic\'s analysis is correct.
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