Originally posted by IronFist
I\'m not asking for completely changed gameplay. I\'m asking for more gameplay. The makers can\'t bash Tekken 4 and Virtua Fighter 4 if their game is just a graphical enhancement of DOA2. AFter all the mud they were slinging, I thought this game would be more than it is.
[color=0033CC]You quoted this from IGN.[/COLOR] "Gameplay-wise, hardcore students of DOA2 will be relieved that they won\'t have to relearn the basic system they\'ve mastered... "
[color=0033CC]All that says to me is the Move system has not changed. I am sure it will feel just like previous doa but how many games don\'t?[/COLOR]
Originally posted by IronFist
Correction: I did want DOA3. Like I said, after all the mud slinging from developers, I was expecting a lot more. I would rather wait for VF4 or Tekken 4 on the PS2 than spend $350 for that game. Now there is no reason for me to even want an Xbox. And hey, there\'s no reason for me to want a NGC either. Neither one of them has anything I want.
[color=0033CC]Again your speaking as though you\'ve played doa3.[/COLOR]
The moves? So you\'re saying you played the game? Tell us about all the new moves that make this game worth the name DOA3 instead of DOA2: Very Hardcore. I\'ve seen over 30 movies, and read lots of impressions, and you are the first to even mention DOA3\'s "new moves."
Almost all the stages are stages from DOA2 with better graphics, or levels stolen from other games. I\'m sorry, but I can\'t get excited about that.
The pace looks just the same as DOA2. The faster sidestep doesn\'t add a huge element to the game. The only thing I see it doing is making the game even more turtle friendly.
Nice graphics though. (and I just watched all 17 movies from IGN, and no, there are no reflections of the characters on the floor. What happened?)
[color=0033CC]How do you know all the stages are from doa2? Ign, gamespot all gave first impression and they never pointed that out and they have played the game. And I never said "NEW moves" I said the moves. Meaning they won\'t be the same because it is Doa3 and I am sure there are new movies. [/COLOR]
Originally posted by IronFist
I said this in another thread, but I\'ll repeat it here.
How similar was Street Fighter 3 to Street Fighter 2? If you have played SF3, you would now that there is so little in common that you could easily mistake SF3 for a game other than Street Fighter. Don\'t give me that "Steet Fighter has been the same for years" nonsense. Street Fighter 2 has had tons of versions. It was ok to have little gameplay changes if the name of the game is still the same: Street Fighter 2. DOA2 had 3 different versions, and they were almost identicle, and that\'s ok because they were not claiming to be a whole new game. But when you add that 3 on the end, there should be changes to go along with it.
And speaking of comparing Street Fighter to DOA. Street Fighter is the most popular 2D franchise ever. DOA is not even close to as popular. Capcom knows that we will buy the next Street Fighter, even if it is Street Fighter 2 Super Hyper Turbo Plus. But DOA doesn\'t have that huge userbase. The makers of DOA should know that they can\'t have upgrades of games and expect them to be popular with so much competition in the 3D fighting game genre.
How long have you been playing Tekken?
Tekken 1 to Tekken 2: Huge upgrade. Moves, characters, gameplay, graphics, levels, costumes. Just about everything was changed.
Tekken 2 to Tekken 3: Again, huge upgrade. Same as above.
Tekken 3 to TTT: Minor upgrade (moves, tag feature, costumes, levels, graphics), but notice the lack of a number on the end. This isn\'t the next game of the series. It\'s an intermission to make the fans happy.
TTT to Tekken 4: Huge changes. Moves, costumes, characters, GAMEPLAY, graphics, levels (every level is new). This is the biggest change in Tekken ever, which is why so many people don\'t like it (just go over to the TZ forums and see what I mean).
[color=0033CC]Let me put in your quote again."[/color] "Gameplay-wise, hardcore students of DOA2 will be relieved that they won\'t have to relearn the basic system they\'ve mastered"
[color=0033CC]That refers to the moves. If you only played sf2 in your whole life. And then you decided hey let me play ssex3 on ps2 you will find out that the basic system is still the same. Ryu,ken,chun li, ect...ect... all the same movies. And you can pick up and character and just mimmick other player combination and to find out new player moves.
oK YOUR SAYING in tekken1 and tekken2 moves,constumes, graphics and what not. Now your contridicting yourself. Because Doa3 has better graphics than doa2 hc, it has new levels, it has new costumes, and I am sure it has new moves.
But what has not changed in tekken is thing you don\'t get but you quoted it. Once again I will repost what you quoted ironfist. [/color]
"Gameplay-wise, hardcore students of DOA2 will be relieved that they won\'t have to relearn the basic system they\'ve mastered..."
[color=0033CC]And that once agains refers to move system in the game. So your going to come on this forum and say that the move system in t1-t2-t3 and TTT was not the same move system? Come on Ironfist sure they added a couple moves when they put in a new character in, but be honest the move system is the same in all the games. I can play t2 and not tekken again until ttt and feel rite a home with the move system.
And that is what I ment. There was no comparing streetfighter to doa3 I never did that. I was talking about the move system in the games. And that was all. But doa3 may be cheesy as doa2 but don\'t make it seem like doa3 is first fighter to be cheesy.
And watchdog I would take ryu\'s opinion over anything ign says at least I know he is not getting any perks form ms. Is he;) And ryu gives some of the most intellegent gaming insights [/color]
