XBOX vs PS2 *The only competition* ::Shuns NGC::

Originally posted by Watchdog
People who think that the PS2 will eventually produce graphics like the GC or xbox once devs "learn" the system are kidding themselves.  All systems will evolve graphically, it\'s just a matter of specs.

Maxxed out, the PS2 is an inferior machine in terms of graphics, and that is the sad truth.

The PS2 already compares to the GC, and the Xbox holds only a fraction better Graphics at this point.

and the PS2 is FAR from maxed out, while both GC and XBox are onna get the maority of their power out of their systems in the 1st 2 generation . The PS2 will still be evolving in generation 4

Wanna bet

I wouldn\'t wanna bet against you there D

Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
Gamecube will be great though, Im looking foward playing Rogue leader, Sc2 and The RE remakes. Its just not enough for many (including myself) to buy one

If those are the only games for the GC that interest you, you haven\'t played Super Smash Bros. Don\'t give me that crap about it looking kiddy. If you (not Metal_Gear_Ray in particular) have friends buy SSB.

BTW, if you don\'t like the, in YOUR opinion, "kiddy" games, then you should definitely check out the Nintendo second and third party "mature" games. I think Nintendo is going with the quality vs. quantitu approach to mature games.

but new DC games do look better than first gen games.Remember, DC only has had TWO gens.

but DOA2 looks better than Soul Calibur.

Shenmue looks better than Time Stalkers.

Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2 looks better than Sega GT.

so on and so forth.

PS2 is much like Saturn. Many people may think it is inferior looking at specs (which frankly don\'t matter that much) but then later proved to be as good as opposing, "more powerful" systems. but looking at the Shenmue for Saturn, it shows that in 1998 Saturn was putting out graphics that PSX was.

PS2 will contend, I promise you. It all depends on the time the devs take.


Eric Jacob

lets jsut hope ps2 du nend up like saturn

Why not?

Anybody that is in to 2d games will agree that Saturn is one of the greatest systems ever.

I hold it to that regard, if PS2 can match that, possibly by having more games like GTA3 (my fav. PS2 game) then it could.


Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast


I hold it to that regard, if PS2 can match that, possibly by having more games like GTA3 (my fav. PS2 game) then it could.

Eric Jacob

Is GTA3 that good, I haven\'t played it yet

gta3 OWNSSSSSSSSSSSS I just got it today!

The xbox line up IS godly.

Halo, DOA3, munch, project gotham, amped, cel damage, fuzion frenzy, madden.



As for the "lets just hope ps2 doesnt end up like saturn" statement...There is no way in hell that will happen, unless sony gets like blown up or something.

I am a sony fanboy and even I will admit the ps2 is outclassed graphically.  I does uses technology that is a year older after all.  When doa2 was ported from the dc to ps2 the framerate doubled, once they tweaked it.  It went from 30-60, then once they ported the ps2 version to the xbox (without any optimizing at all) it went up to 120fps frames per second.  In an egm article using a half power dev kit, they took a game comparable to Ecco and put it on the xbox it ran at over 300fps, and on final dev i believe it ran near 1000fps.  The xbox is way more powerful, just look at Moto GP.  Or SSX tricky, ea sports said that the polygon counts and particles had to be toned down for the ps2 version which was the base version by the way.  The NV2A is the most powerful chip in the world right now, not the ee and its vector units.  

Ps. even first gen xbox games can\'t be done on the ps2 due to bump mapping, real time reflections, vertex shaders, etc.

PSS. how do i post pics?

chrono86:  I find it hard to belive your a PS2 fanboy..
:cool:

Oh to post pics.. Just press the IMG button and paste the address (address to the picture) in the window that pops-up.

I am a sony fanboy and even I will admit the ps2 is outclassed graphically.  I does uses technology that is a year older after all.  When doa2 was ported from the dc to ps2 the framerate doubled, once they tweaked it.  It went from 30-60, then once they ported the ps2 version to the xbox (without any optimizing at all) it went up to 120fps frames per second.

I am sorry (and I know I shouldn\'t reply to posts like these), but this one tops it all. Do you honestly think that the framerate numbers you read about DoA2 really proves that X-Box is more powerful?? Pleeease!!

In an egm article using a half power dev kit, they took a game comparable to Ecco and put it on the xbox it ran at over 300fps, and on final dev i believe it ran near 1000fps.

What does that tell us? comparable to Ecco? How comparable to Ecco? This proves damn nothing kid.

The xbox is way more powerful, just look at Moto GP.  Or SSX tricky, ea sports said that the polygon counts and particles had to be toned down for the ps2 version which was the base version by the way.

Have any articles to back that up, son?

The NV2A is the most powerful chip in the world right now, not the ee and its vector units.

Kind a sad actually, that such an advanced chip is handicaped by such a slow CPU. I find it laughable though, that anyone would even try to compare a CPU to a GPU. Incase you haven\'t known this, both have different tasks, and in the case of PS2 and X-Box, the differences go much deaper. BTW: X-Box uses old and "dying" technology. Go figure.