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« on: November 11, 2001, 08:50:43 PM »
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011111/tc/tech_videogames_dc_1.html


By Ben Berkowitz

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - In the purple corner: a short, squat plumber with suspenders and a mustache. In the black corner: the world\'s richest man, a geek with glasses. It\'s Mario versus Bill Gates (news - web sites) in a battle for a $20 billion industry.

The next seven days mark the most anticipated and hyped week in the 29-year history of the video game business: the Thursday launch of the Xbox (news - web sites), a sleek black console from software giant Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news), and next Sunday\'s debut of GameCube, a colorful next-generation platform for Mario and Nintendo (news - web sites) Co. Ltd.\'s (7974.OS) other famed characters.

Analysts expect the twin launches, combined with sales of the year-old PlayStation 2 (news - web sites) from Sony Corp (news - web sites). (6758.T), to ignite a five-year growth cycle in the video game industry, which already outranks Hollywood movies as a magnet for entertainment dollars.

The anticipation for the product launches, which come just ahead of the year-end shopping season, has turned the video game industry into ``Donkey Kong,\'\' the big gorilla to beat.

Shares in game publishers, such as Activision Inc. (Nasdaq:ATVI - news) and THQ Inc. (Nasdaq:THQI - news), which create software for all three next-generation platforms, have more than doubled in 2001 even as the Nasdaq has lost more than a quarter of its value.

By year-end, no fewer than 225 video games will be available for the next-generation platforms, which feature faster processors and richer graphics.

\'UNPRECEDENTED TIME\'

``This is an unprecedented time for the industry,\'\' Peter Moore, president of video-game publisher Sega of America, told Reuters.

The $199 GameCube, which comes in purple and black, is a compact and colorful bundle designed to appeal to children and younger gamers that make up Nintendo\'s core audience for games such as the classic Super Mario series.

Microsoft\'s $299 Xbox, by contrast, looks like a mean machine -- black and heavy, with a signature green plastic gem embedded on top and a claim to faster chips, more memory and other features designed to appeal to the 18- to 30-year-old men who favor high action and fast fun.

The new game consoles will compete with Sony\'s PlayStation 2 at a time when economic indicators all point to a recession but there is no evidence that it has touched the $20 billion video game industry. Analysts expect both units to sell out fast.

``We pre-sold our entire initial allocation for both units,\'\' said Peter Roithmayr, vice president of the video games division at game retailer Electronics Boutique (Nasdaq:ELBO - news). ``On day one we will not have any Xboxes or GameCubes available.\'\'

The holidays might be even better than the already-high expectations, since people are traveling less and spending more on stay-at-home entertainment since the Sept. 11 attacks, said Michael Wallace, an analyst at UBS Warburg who follows the industry.

Microsoft initially said it would ship around 600,000 units at launch but is now expected to have about 300,000 units on day one, and 1 million to 1.5 million by year-end. Most analysts and industry executives expect to see the low end of the range.

Nintendo will have 700,000 units at launch and 1.1 million by year-end, although some analysts say the Japanese company might ship as many as 200,000 extra in a bid to keep up with demand.

SONY READY TO RUMBLE

Sony is not doing more than usual to sell the PS2 and has held the line against calls for a discount to its $299 price tag. Microsoft and Nintendo, meanwhile, have unleashed marketing blitzes.

Even so, retailers appear to be staking more on Sony rather than risking much on the two newcomers.

A survey of 25 top specialty toy and video game retailers ranked PS2 as the likely best-selling console this holiday season, and Konami Co Ltd.\'s (9766.T) ``Metal Gear Solid 2\'\' as the likely best-selling game.

Two GameCube titles made the top-10 game list; not a single one of the 30 Xbox games expected this year made the top 10.

``Metal Gear Solid 2,\'\' the most anticipated game of the year, also launches on Friday with an estimated 2 million customer pre-orders at a retail price of $49.99.

As the rookie in the $20 billion-a year gaming arena, Microsoft has earmarked $500 million to generate buzz for the Xbox, unleashing teaser television ads and serving up promotions in some 7,000 Taco Bell restaurants.

Advertising and promotions are also key to Nintendo\'s $75 million marketing plan, which included setting up ``Cube Clubs\'\' -- a kind of a street party for gamers --in 12 major cities.

Sony\'s approach is quieter, and analysts say it can afford to be because it has already sold more than 5 million boxes.

The Japanese company is looking to broaden its audience, bringing more women to the PS2 with campaigns in magazines such as Elle, Shape and Better Homes & Gardens.

All three game machines represent a quantum leap from the platform widely recognized as the first home-game console, the Magnavox Odyssey, which was released in 1972.

The Odyssey, now a collector\'s item, lacked a central processor and relied on plastic screen overlays to generate game backgrounds.



Holy Crap!!!!!!!!!! 2 million mgs2 preorders in the U.S. only?!?!!?!?! Most unbelieveable numbers I;ve ever heard. I\'m ready for next week picking up da box along with project gothem, halo, and mgs2.
 



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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2001, 08:54:35 PM »
doubt it.

2 million orders by the stores seems more realistic. There weren\'t even 2 million preorders for Pokemon (x color), or PS2. It will probably sell 2 million total, or near to that, but at the Best Buy I work at, I have had maybe 15 to 20 people ask me when it was comin out, but no one asked if they could pre-order it. It will be big, no doubt, probably outsell all of the X-Box and GC games.

But installed base factors alot in here.


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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2001, 08:56:33 PM »
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doubt it.

2 million orders by the stores seems more realistic. There weren\'t even 2 million preorders for Pokemon (x color), or PS2. It will probably sell 2 million total, or near to that, but at the Best Buy I work at, I have had maybe 15 to 20 people ask me when it was comin out, but no one asked if they could pre-order it. It will be big, no doubt, probably outsell all of the X-Box and GC games.

But installed base factors alot in here.


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You know what I\'m being to have second thoughts about those preorders.  If its true thats amazing last time I heard in japan dragon warrior 7 had 2 or 3million preorders or something.  I know FFX had 1.5 million preorders in japan.:fro: :fro: :fro:
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2001, 09:17:00 PM »
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The next seven days mark the most anticipated and hyped week in the 29-year history of the video game business:

I don\'t think so.  Just last week when I went to get CvsSNK2 at Babbages, they were still taking preorders on the Xbox -- just 1 week before launch.  The PS2\'s launch was easily the most hyped and most anticipated week in video game history IMO.  If you didn\'t fully pay for your PS2 at least 4 or 5 months in advance, you didn\'t really have a chance to get one.

And I believe that 2 million preorders number.  MGS2 is probably the most hyped and most looked forward to game in history.  I know a lot of people who bought a PS2 just for this one game.  It was arguably "game of the show" at E3 for two years in a row.  I wouldn\'t be surprised if the game sold 1 million the first 3 days, and 2 million within the first two weeks (there will probably be a shortage, which is why it will be 2 weeks before it reaches 2 million.)  Those are my predictions at least.  It\'s going to be interesting to see if I\'m right. :)
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2001, 09:27:53 PM »
I think you are over-estimating here, buddy :)

I know that two of my friends got PS2s without preordering without much trouble. Much to say they were pissed when they didn\'t play any games for 3 or 4 months (because they sucked, of course) but now they are loving it. I must say, they both bought it for MGS2 though.

1 million in 3 days is unrealistic at best. I work Thursday, when we put it out at Best Buy and I will tell you what we sell most of, but I highly doubt 1 million in even the first week.


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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2001, 09:40:31 PM »
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I know that two of my friends got PS2s without preordering without much trouble. Much to say they were pissed when they didn\'t play any games for 3 or 4 months (because they sucked, of course) but now they are loving it. I must say, they both bought it for MGS2 though.

For the people who wanted to be garanteed a PS2 on launch day, they had to completely pay for it months in advance.  Lots of people who preordered half a year in advance didn\'t even get one because they didn\'t pay for it in full.  Your friends just got lucky IMO, because tons of people who camped out in front on non-preordering stores didn\'t get one.  The PS2 launch was huge, and I don\'t see the Xbox or NGC, or the combination of the two, beating the hype and the excitement that came from the PS2 launch.

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1 million in 3 days is unrealistic at best. I work Thursday, when we put it out at Best Buy and I will tell you what we sell most of, but I highly doubt 1 million in even the first week.

We will see.  Like I said, those are just my predictions.  It is very possible that it won\'t be that good, but I\'m sticking to what I said -- 1 million in 3 days, 2 million in 2 weeks.

BTW, does Best Buy take preorders for video games?  If so, do you know how many copies of MGS2 have been preordered so far at that store?
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2001, 09:49:32 PM »
We take preorders on games (not systems though) and I havent personally taken any preorders on it, when people ask me when it comes out, they never take the final step and actually reserve it, just walk off. That isn\'t to say that we havent, because as a student I only work like 25 hours a week, some of the other guys may have taken preorders, I havent seen any though.


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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2001, 10:13:36 PM »
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We take preorders on games (not systems though) and I havent personally taken any preorders on it, when people ask me when it comes out, they never take the final step and actually reserve it, just walk off. That isn\'t to say that we havent, because as a student I only work like 25 hours a week, some of the other guys may have taken preorders, I havent seen any though.


Most people don\'t think anything about pre-orders.  Why spend the money now when you can spend it later?  People like to take chances and wait till the last second.  That\'s why X-Box pre-orders are still being taken right now.  Besides, games are always in abundance, pre-ordering them is kinda pointless unless you live in an area with tons of gamers and can\'t get to the store until late at night.  Who knows though, we\'ll know sales figures in like a month or so.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2001, 06:21:26 AM »
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the Thursday launch of the Xbox (news - web sites), a sleek black console from software giant Microsoft Corp.



Doesn\'t he mean, "This Thursday the launch of the XBox, a sleek black giant console from software Microsoft Corp?"

He makes the XBox out to be powerhouse. Never listen to people who try and do Video Game articles, when they aren\'t even a video game reporter.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2001, 08:13:56 AM »
look at the specs, any non-game reviewer will do so and see that X-Box has the best.

And X-Box is a powerhouse.


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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2001, 09:05:32 AM »
I might have to do another campout for the X-box this year.  What day, the 15th?
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2001, 09:40:15 AM »
I don\'t feel the excitement around as it was for the PS2 launch date... I think Xbox might have a decent launch, but it is pretty much watered down... like games with better graphics only ;)


The XBox\'s titles remind me of the PS2 launch titles, nice graphics, not enough must have titles.. IMO. Although in a year, XBox might have some really cool titles. ... . ... .

The PS2 launch was my favorite console launch yet !
I mean people knew about the PS2, and i mean old people in their 40\'s ... i was waiting for a cab, and this janitor was mopping the floor, he sees the PS2 in my plastic bag, and he was all excited about it...  I got a 2 and half hour break at lunch to go get my PS2 ... lol, then i came back to work, and parade it around all the offices :D  

I scored the mother-load, a couple days before the actual release date..

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2001, 10:10:29 AM »
*AlteredBeast looks at PS2 launch list*
*AlteredBeast looks at Toxical\'s comment*
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you have got to be joking! It looks like the same games with better graphics?!?!

The PS2 launch was FILLED with sequels of PSX games with hardly a touch of improvement. X-Box has the most unseen by consoles games there. Sure it has Munch Even though it is completely different, it seems, than past Abe games), DOA3, and Madden, etc. but it also has Halo, Fuzion Frenzy, Project Gotham, etc.


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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2001, 10:18:59 AM »
I dunno about you..

But I had alot of fun with Tekken Tag, SSX and TimeSplitters..
But thats just me.. The PS2 whore. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2001, 10:48:42 AM »
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you have got to be joking! It looks like the same games with better graphics?!?!
 


I did not exactly say that, nor did i mean it to come out that way :D

 The Xbox does have some good titles:

Halo (FPS – “whoppdidoooo Basil, but what does it do?” Quote provided by Austin Powers :D  Another FPS, can’t wait to buy mouse and keyboard for this one lol )

Star Wars Starfighter (seen it, played it, although this is a “special version” for the LunchBox.)

Project Gotham Racing (Gran Turismo wannabe)

DOA3 (hmmm, DOA2 with better graphics)

Oddworld: Munch\'s Oddysee  (done that…wow )

NFL Fever 2002 ( another NFL game wow)

Tony Hawk\'s Pro Skater 2X  ( What happened to THPS3?)

AirForce Delta Storm  ( this one is destined to shatter all sales records)

I can continue with the list, I don’t see any system sellers, unless the “nice graphics” for DOA3 count as something you would have to get… :D

Don\'t get me wrong though, i will get an XBox eventually, but not just yet, no particular title makes me wet my pants yet...  :laughing:

 

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