Xbox threatens \'LIFE CYCLE" PS3 earlier than it intended?

personally I reckon that the Xbox is only a threat to Sony in the US market, not the rest of the world

Originally posted by Vulcan Raven
As much as I would want the  PS2 earlier, I hope it doesnt. A 5 year cycle is good. The average gamer isnt made of money

I HAVE GREAT NEWS FOR YOU VULCAN!!!!

You can have a PS2 now, like today!!!!!  WHOO HOOO what great news..

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
All credit was lost in this article when he said...



"Sega was forced out of the hardware market following the disastrous launch of its DreamCast console. "

What a bunch of bull****. Dreamcast had the best system launch ever in it\'s time. EVER!


Eric Jacob

might be to you but to me, there was only one game that intersterd me which was SC (highly overrated anyway)

anywayz

I dont like this news, I\'m going to buy a ps2 this month and do NOT want to hear about ps3

[BizioEE]

Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray


might be to you but to me, there was only one game that intersterd me which was SC (highly overrated anyway)

anywayz

I dont like this news, I\'m going to buy a ps2 this month and do NOT want to hear about ps3

Don\'t worry,PS3 won\'t be released until 2005

yeah... the Cell that IBM, Sony and I think Toshiba are working on (new and very powerful CPU) is scheduled to be finished in 2004. The PS3 which will most likely have this CPU in it would probably see a release in 2005. And I doubt that Sony is scared of the competition - from what I have heard, they are welcoming it. Sony has no reason to fear Microsoft at that position where they are today.

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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
All credit was lost in this article when he said...



"Sega was forced out of the hardware market following the disastrous launch of its DreamCast console. "

What a bunch of bull****. Dreamcast had the best system launch ever in it\'s time. EVER!


Eric Jacob

Agree\'d...

Soul Calibur, Sonic Adventure, House of the Dead 2, Hydro THunder...AH, the list goes on.

Ahh... the old PS3 discussion ! No serious, I\'m not a fan of shorter console life cycles. The games industry is gonna be already \'FULL\' with 3 consoles. You don\'t want to mess with key factors like those 5 year cycles ; it might bring the games industry to crash. What I mean by this, is that the industry could get so saturated so fast that all games content from every party involved will start to look alike, quality decrease and such.... the consumer/gamer will get fed up with it... just like the first videogame industry crash when everybody was tired of the same Pong consoles or the second time when innovation was lost and everybody copied Space Invaders.
Gamers will only win if companies max out the capacaties of their franchise. I think it would be a shame to not be able to see how the PS2 developing will evolve, especially because it of it\'s \'alternative\' hardware/architecture. Wouldn\'t it be cool to see the PS2 \'innovative technology\' ( even if it\'s not the most powerfull when speaking in raw terms of Mhz and stuff )come out on top at the end and ppl would look back and admit how over pessimistic they were when devs were nagging about \'how difficult\' it was supposed to be.
So XBOX should IMO be a boost for quality in the games industry, not a \'fast n sloppy\' kind of thing.
Knotter8

The five year cycle has developed over time, and really is the best sytem.  It combines a lot of factors:

1) Allows people to afford that (in Canada) 400-500 dollar console, something most people won\'t spend every two years.  Notice I said most.  I know some of you can afford that, I could probably technically afford to buy three 450 dollar consoles every two years - but I wouldn\'t, and I don\'t think others would either.

2) Allows a smooth, long transition for developers.  They\'re still making games for the PSone you know, and it\'s taken two years for devs to really blow me away with the ps2\'s avaiable hardware.

3) If there is a big tech gap (ie, going from PSone, to PS2 w emotion engine, to PS3 cell cpu), then people will really feel like they\'re getting their money\'s worth, consumers will be happier with what they get.  
When I took home my PS2, played it\'s games, and it blew away all my older stuff, I was happy, and said to myself "that was worth it".  When I uprade my computer (which I do constanly, in little bits), and see a 5% performance increase, it\'s no big deal, it\'s just, you know, peh.

4) If you have a two year cycle, even three years, you will end up with two current systems per company.  What I mean is If they started a 2 year cycle today, the PS3 would be coming out, along with MGS2, FFX, and in a year FFXI... where would the games go?  Would devs be dropping promising titles and just start working towards launch titles for the next system, just a short time away?  That\'s the worst thing that can happen.  It takes devs a couple of years to really learn the systems, so you don\'t want to change it just as people master the hardware.  400 dollar systems mean I DEMAND my money\'s worth, I want to see a huge library of games, a damn 5 year library, not two years.

5) These console changes, or lifecycles, are not upgrades.  When you go out and spend 500 dollars on your computer, it\'s an upgrade, you don\'t have to throw away that old 8 gig HDD, or 64 mb simm.  With consoles, each new system represents a TOTAL shift to a new series of specifications.  I personally would find it horrendously wastefull to be buying consoles every few years - as it is, I\'ve got around eight consoles in my house already.

Maybe some of you have never heard there was a lot of in house fighting at Sony to get the go ahead to produce the original PSX. This interview may be nothing more than residual resentment, a bit of pissing on the success of the golden child beforehand in case all does not go according to plan.

Fatson has the right idea. Interview Ken Kutaragi and you\'ll get a whole different story. Mr. Ando is probably basing this worst case scenario on nothing more than MS big talk. It certainly wasn\'t based on what went on today, which was not much. There\'s only one place in my town to get an xbox, Walmart. As of an hour ago they still have plenty, in fact the section devoted to the xbox was packed full. Compare that to not seeing a single PS2 on the shelves until a full six months after launch. You get the idea. I\'m still fairly certain xbox will have a tough time outselling DC. Talk of an early launch for PS3 at this point is absurd.

As a playstation fan, I am pissed to hear this new.  I just hope ps2 will be a five year plan system instead of 3, better if longer!  Hate it if sony is going to sell it out on 2003!  I have high hopes on ps2, but when I hear this new, it makes me feels like sony is admitting they are going to loose this gen console and are going to make a ps3 to compete.  I can\'t really see why, I know xbox come with built in hard drive and enternet adapter, but PS2 still have the upper hand due to lots of triple A games coming out for it.  I just bought MGS2 and I enjoy it as much as the first.  So, lets ps2 is longer than five years lifespan, six years is great!  I hope ps3 cell engine will be complete on 2005 instead of 2004 and come out on 2006 instead of 2003 or 2005.  (my six years lifespan for ps2.)

Originally posted by Heretic
Fatson has the right idea. Interview Ken Kutaragi and you\'ll get a whole different story.

It\'s pronounced Fastson, NOT Fatson.  I just thought it would be better hearing this from me than from Fastson.  You don\'t want to know what he does to people who call him Fatson.

Originally posted by IronFist

It\'s pronounced Fastson, NOT Fatson.  I just thought it would be better hearing this from me than from Fastson.  You don\'t want to know what he does to people who call him Fatson.

Ah.. Thanks IronFist..
Yes I do awefull things with people who call me Fatson.. (crush them under my weight is one of them!)

Originally posted by fastson
Yes I do awefull things with people who call me Fatson.. (crush them under my weight is one of them!)

lol.

Originally posted by fastson


Ah.. Thanks IronFist..
Yes I do awefull things with people who call me Fatson.. (crush them under my weight is one of them!)

:eek:

Fastson, please accept my apologies. Though I do think of you as a HUGE Sony fan there was never any disrespect intended as I myself am a HUGE Fastson fan, in spirit if not so much in girth.

Well i think that article was a bit "only marketing" oriented.
I have readed worse things in a NVIDIA document when there was 3dfx alive. Now nVidia is up and 3dfx... well.. you know.
(don\'t flame please i had 2 voodoo2 sli and a voodoo1).

One thing worry me...: XBox it\'s more simple to became XBox2 than Play2 to Play3.

I mean... if you take the original hw architecture of XBox... put in a P4 2Ghz, put in 512Mb of ram... well you have 50% of work done. You can use nVidia GeForce5 GPU and the XBox2 it\'s done.
(With 100% games compatibility... you know.. directX).

For PS3 maybe they must rewrite all the hw architecture. Bye bye old games etc.

Maybe they need to design a good new hw architecture ONE time and use it for new generation console.

only my opinion.