How is there a BET channel?

Originally posted by CHIZZY
didn\'t stronger African tribes enslave other tribes that they had conquered? Didn\'t they then sell their fellow Africans to the europeans?

Just a thought...

That is true CHIZZY, but there were so many factors that resulted in that phenomenon, that couldn\'t be explained in a forum. I\'ve done a lot of research concerning African history and the effects of slavery and that would be another whole book on it\'s own.

Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Yeah I think being called African-American is alot of bull.

You don\'t see white people everywhere being called: Polish-American, German-American, Italian-American, French-American, etc.

They are AMERICAN! And when one of my black friends went on a Safari to Africa, he thought he would have it made there cuz\' he was black, he was treated like nothing more than an American cuz\' those true African people don\'t consider so-called, "African Americans", African at all.

Some of your post is a lot of b.s. A lot of white ppl acknowledge their European heritage, and there\'s nothing wrong with that.

I won\'t even comment on your "friends" Safari b/c honestly, I\'m skeptical about the whole incident and I don\'t know enough about what your friend was doing to be treated like "nothing more than an American". Maybe your friend was acting more like a "tourist" than actually trying to search out his roots.

You don\'t get what I\'m saying.


When I see a black person walk up to me, I don\'t hate them right away.  If they ask me a question, I\'ll answer.  If they ask me a favor, I\'ll do it.  If they come up to me and say "hey nigga, gimme so money(example)," I just walk away.  And the truth is, at least half of them are like that. Since they\'re black, they can call eachother niggers, be loud and obnoxious,  and act like they need to be different in a radical way.  And don\'t give me **** like I\'m racist.  How many times have you seen a Fubu shirt?  Fubu means "For Us, By Us."  Well, that\'s not racist.  You say BET is a channel to see blacks?  Well why can\'t they see other races if they\'re not racist?  CUZ THEY FEEL THEY HAVE TO.

Originally posted by kimathi
If you want to belive that is an incorrect use of the word, then that is your POV but it is certainly not mine. Yes you do disrespect ppl by not calling them what they wish to be called and if a white person wanted me to call him WHITE THUNDER, then that is what I would call him. Why? Because it is a matter of compromise and that is trait that makes us human. If I want to have peace with my neighbor, then I will respect him/her. Personally, I don\'t care what you call Black ppl (do your own thing) it\'s no skin off my nose. If you choose to disrespect others b/c you don\'t believe in compromise then so be it and you deserve whatever reaction you get from them, be it good or bad. That\'s your karma. I prefer harmony first ,above all.

I don\'t consider it disrespect just b/c you want to be called something and someone else doesn\'t want to call you that.  My full name is Robert.  I prefer Rob, but when someone calls me Robert or even Bob I don\'t consider it disrespect.  I understand what you say but I think you are misunderstanding the intentions of others.

Ah, but EmperorBob just wouldn\'t have the same ring to it.

Originally posted by ViVi
You don\'t get what I\'m saying.


When I see a black person walk up to me, I don\'t hate them right away.  If they ask me a question, I\'ll answer.  If they ask me a favor, I\'ll do it.  If they come up to me and say "hey nigga, gimme so money(example)," I just walk away.  And the truth is, at least half of them are like that. Since they\'re black, they can call eachother niggers, be loud and obnoxious,  and act like they need to be different in a radical way.  And don\'t give me **** like I\'m racist.  How many times have you seen a Fubu shirt?  Fubu means "For Us, By Us."  Well, that\'s not racist.  You say BET is a channel to see blacks?  Well why can\'t they see other races if they\'re not racist?  CUZ THEY FEEL THEY HAVE TO.

So what...Hillfiger is racist, FUBU isnt. BTW..most dont walk around calling themselves niggers, they call each other nigga\'s. There is a big difference in term. All types of people are loud and obnoxious. White people are the ones I see more of "being different" as you put it. Punk rockers..metal heads,goths...etc..etc


I dont care what you say, it comes out everytime you post vivi, I believe you to be racist and prejudice for what ever may have happened in your life between you and a person of color.

Originally posted by EmperorRob
I don\'t consider it disrespect just b/c you want to be called something and someone else doesn\'t want to call you that.  My full name is Robert.  I prefer Rob, but when someone calls me Robert or even Bob I don\'t consider it disrespect.  I understand what you say but I think you are misunderstanding the intentions of others.

Maybe you don\'t consider that disrespect but there are others that do, I being one. Calling others what they wish to be called is a form of acknowledgement and the beginning toward mutual respect between parties. Mutual respect breeds cooperation and mutual cooperation creates a bond. A bond secures peace. Maybe ppl that believe like you do are the ones that misunderstand.

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Originally posted by ViVi
You don\'t get what I\'m saying.


When I see a black person walk up to me, I don\'t hate them right away.  If they ask me a question, I\'ll answer.  If they ask me a favor, I\'ll do it.  If they come up to me and say "hey nigga, gimme so money(example)," I just walk away.And the truth is, at least half of them are like that. Since they\'re black, they can call eachother niggers, be loud and obnoxious,  and act like they need to be different in a radical way.  And don\'t give me **** like I\'m racist.  How many times have you seen a Fubu shirt?  Fubu means "For Us, By Us."  Well, that\'s not racist.  You say BET is a channel to see blacks?  Well why can\'t they see other races if they\'re not racist?  CUZ THEY FEEL THEY HAVE TO.

I\'ll be damned. This boy knows half of a complete race!

:rolleyes:

Don\'t need to.

[CHIZZY]

You know what? Every time a crime has been commited against me it has been an "African-American" person. all 3 times I\'ve been jumped and mugged, both times my car was broken into (I watched one happen, and they caught the second one with my stereo 3 blocks away), and my apartment building was burglarized.  I  can\'t even come up with this kind of crap. Do I think that the people as a whole are criminals? No. If it wasn\'t them, it would have been someone else. It\'s the facts of life, kid. Theives are theives. Beggars are beggars.

Maybe you\'re upset because you feel like you can\'t be in their club or something. :rolleyes:

How about something like the "Black Entertainment Awards" or whatever..... They hold awards shows for only black people to win. I don\'t really see this as being fair and I do consider it to be racist, white people can\'t win, chinese people can\'t win so is that not being racist?

I mean black people can win awards in the Academy awards, Golden Globes or the grammys so why do they feel the need to have their own awards show? There is plenty of talented white people or even Japanese people who never get a true chance to show their talent to the world or get rewarded for it but you don\'t see them *****ing about it.

Anyway that\'s just my little view as I see it today.

This is a losing battle. No matter what I or anyone else says you guys are always going to ignore it. I don\'t know how Japanese and Chinese got into the argument but if you want to go there. Japanese and Chinese people have a bunch of asian only clubs and organizations themselves. There is an asian equivalent of just about every african american organization you can name. The same goes for every other race.

Also I still don\'t understand how shocasing black artists and talent is racist. If the television landscape is 90% white with some minorities sprinkled in what is wrong with those minorities having ONE OR TWO channels that showcase their race? The spanish have got their own awards show. I\'m sure there are awards shows in asia also.

Well ok, but do have you ever seen a whites only award show? Could it be Black people aren\'t talented enough to win the academy awards or say a Grammy? No they definitley can be so why must they have their own damn awards show where they don\'t hand out awards to anyone other than black people. That is extremley racist. Why don\'t we have a restaurant where only white people can eat? Because it\'s wrong to discriminate based on skin color alone. Gohan you know you can\'t argue against anything I have said in this non gramatical paragraph.

"If the television landscape is 90% white with some minorities sprinkled in what is wrong with those minorities having ONE OR TWO channels that showcase their race?" - LIC

Yeah, but the funny thing is.. I\'ve watched the BET and rarely do they ever have "All Black" or "Predominantly Black" casts in their shows/movies. Usually it\'s a cast of white actors with one big name black actor. That\'s it. For example, the movie Screwed was on recently. 1 black guy in the whole film.. whoopty friggin do. That hardly classifies as content appropiate for a channel that\'s supposed to showcase the acting talents of the black community.

I\'m not even going to get into the rest of the argument. We\'re all forigners here. Lets not forget that while we squable over "White Rights" and "Black rights" and racism and all that.. the true forefathers of this land are sitting on tiny little reservations out in the middle of nowhere. Seems like noone ever pays them any attention or asks their opinions on just how strongly they feel the sting of racial prejudice. The victims of our grandfather\'s genocide, and perhaps the most opressed race of them all in America is simply ignored.

Where\'s their TV channel, Award show, Music hour... ?? More than that.. where\'s their dignity?

Ah christ... nm.

Originally posted by SonyFan
"If the television landscape is 90% white with some minorities sprinkled in what is wrong with those minorities having ONE OR TWO channels that showcase their race?" - LIC

Yeah, but the funny thing is.. I\'ve watched the BET and rarely do they ever have "All Black" or "Predominantly Black" casts in their shows/movies. Usually it\'s a cast of white actors with one big name black actor. That\'s it. For example, the movie Screwed was on recently. 1 black guy in the whole film.. whoopty friggin do. That hardly classifies as content appropiate for a channel that\'s supposed to showcase the acting talents of the black community.

I\'m not even going to get into the rest of the argument. We\'re all forigners here. Lets not forget that while we squable over "White Rights" and "Black rights" and racism and all that.. the true forefathers of this land are sitting on tiny little reservations out in the middle of nowhere. Seems like noone ever pays them any attention or asks their opinions on just how strongly they feel the sting of racial prejudice. The victims of our grandfather\'s genocide, and perhaps the most opressed race of them all in America is simply ignored.

Where\'s their TV channel, Award show, Music hour... ?? More than that.. where\'s their dignity?

Ah christ... nm.

Damn man, true dat.

Soon enough, the government is going to take what little they have now like they did in the past.

I think they made a book about the times the government screwed them over, the name of the book escapes me right now.