Is Square going to backstab?

They announced that 12 would be exclusive way back when they annonced FF10...Just thought some Square fans might know something...

trust me the square fans have known for a while. And square has siad they they ended negotiations. And Final Fantasy XIII is not being produced yet so its irelavent if it wil be exclusive or not. Who knows it may be exclusive to the Playstation 3.

Opps...wrong post...read below

Okay, whoa!! FFXI is set to come out this year, I think sometime during the summer.  FFXII is well into production as pics are starting to come about.

All I want is a link or post that says Square has ceased all talks with any one else other than Sony...something recent...

Originally posted by ooseven



that was funny when that happend

ooseven rewinds the OVER USED tape that shows Square backstabing Nintendo ......

I will second that.

Microsoft has mucho $$$.  So I think it\'s possible that Square could develop games for X Box.  You gotta remember it\'s all about Money!  That\'s all they care about.  Why make games for one console when they can make even more money developing for all systems!  I don\'t know about Gamecube though.

1) I dont care really cuz i hate the FF series (dont like rpg\'s )
2) They will never go back to nintendo cuz as the above user stated they got screwed and left nintendo.
3) SO what if they make a game for xbox, its not the end of the world.

I just dont see the point about exclusives, as long as its a good game, i could care less if xbox, ps2, nintendo, the arcade, and the friggin atari get the game at the same time, as long as its entertaining, who cares.

They will lose money if they make games multi consoule. Sony gives Squares almost entire royalty. While Microsoft would want a standard amount, probably less even for more gratatude. But it wouldn\'t compare to what Sony has done for square. Sony has invested so much and will continue to do so if square remains a third party.

However I still believe that if any game goes over to any consoul that the only game that would go anywhere would be FInal Fantasy XI to the X-Box and thtas because of PlayOnline.

Originally posted by Caspian
They will lose money if they make games multi consoule. Sony gives Squares almost entire royalty. While Microsoft would want a standard amount, probably less even for more gratatude. But it wouldn\'t compare to what Sony has done for square. Sony has invested so much and will continue to do so if square remains a third party.

However I still believe that if any game goes over to any consoul that the only game that would go anywhere would be FInal Fantasy XI to the X-Box and thtas because of PlayOnline.

only thing i disagree with is the fact they would lose money... I understadn they make plenty now, but offering games on other consoles opens up a whole new world of profit, and when it comes down to it, thats what its about... $$$

Originally posted by Caspian
tape?

hmm. . . a bit of square knowsledge I am not informed of. Could you tell me what your talking about?

It a joke and not a very good on it seams...

You know a Tape like the Watergate tape.

or the Bill Clinton Tapes ?

Ah forget it i am spoiled here ... i am of to a QUALITY site like TAME X box ........... :clown:



oh and Z

Microsoft has mucho $$$. So I think it\'s possible that Square could develop games for X Box. You gotta remember it\'s all about Money! That\'s all they care about. Why make games for one console when they can make even more money developing for all systems! I don\'t know about Gamecube though.

SONY has more money that MS.

Plus their share in Square was the LARGEST permitable by one complany ALONE !

Plus Square have no Plans to jump ship

After all Sony and Square have a mutual partnership thing going, thanks to the poor takens of the final fantasy movie.

ooseven, you need to get your facts straight.

1.  Microsoft has WAY more money than Sony.  Sony has about 60 billion dollars, and Microsoft has about 500 billion dollars.  When you get up to that much money, the differences become less important, but they are still there.  If Microsoft and Sony both tried to buy out Square, Microsoft would easily win.

2. Sony does not own the most shares of Square.  There is another share holder that owns a little more than Sony.  Sony owns 19%, and the other company owns somewhere between 20-30%.

3. How would you know if Square has plans to jump ship or not?

4. Sony and Square had a mutual partnership even before the movie.  Sony actually gave Square a lot of money for that movie to be made -- probably hoping to be paid back the original amount that they gave Square plus some of the profits.


I will agree with you on your overall idea though -- that Square isn\'t going anywhere for a long time to come.  Sony and Square depend on each other and have done a lot for each other.  Square even said that they were free to develope for other systems, but there only interest was the PS2 at the time (a couple months ago when Sony bought some of Square).  So I really doubt Square goes multiplatform this generation (meaning, they won\'t go multiplatform until at least the PS3/Xbox2/NGC2 comes out, if then).

Originally posted by IronFist
ooseven, you need to get your facts straight.

1.  Microsoft has WAY more money than Sony.  Sony has about 60 billion dollars, and Microsoft has about 500 billion dollars.  When you get up to that much money, the differences become less important, but they are still there.  If Microsoft and Sony both tried to buy out Square, Microsoft would easily win.

2. Sony does not own the most shares of Square.  There is another share holder that owns a little more than Sony.  Sony owns 19%, and the other company owns somewhere between 20-30%.

3. How would you know if Square has plans to jump ship or not?

4. Sony and Square had a mutual partnership even before the movie.  Sony actually gave Square a lot of money for that movie to be made -- probably hoping to be paid back the original amount that they gave Square plus some of the profits.


I will agree with you on your overall idea though -- that Square isn\'t going anywhere for a long time to come.  Sony and Square depend on each other and have done a lot for each other.  Square even said that they were free to develope for other systems, but there only interest was the PS2 at the time (a couple months ago when Sony bought some of Square).  So I really doubt Square goes multiplatform this generation (meaning, they won\'t go multiplatform until at least the PS3/Xbox2/NGC2 comes out, if then).

2 words PLAY ONLINE.

its Squares internet service so i guess that they want more people to subscribe and, therefore  XBOX and PC FF online will add more golden Gills to Squares Chests.

i mean with PS2, X Box and PC owners all pay to play the online game, it will mean that they can get more money

oh and lighten up  please.

But with FFXI being released in only a couple months from now, don\'t you think they would have at least announced the Xbox/PC/ (NGC?) versions by now?  I agree that it would be more profitable for them if they made FFXI multiconsole, but it seems less and less likely every day.  Until they actually announce something, all we can do is speculate.

And what do you mean lighten up?  All I said is that you need to get your facts straight.  I\'m sorry if I offended you or anything, but you did need to get your facts straight.

I am sorry friend. Microsoft does not have more money then sony. Bill Gates the president of microsoft is the second riches man in the world if nto the richest. However on the Fortune Five Hundred List Sony places 7th and microsoft places 113.

Microsoft is not as larg as Sony. Sony is worth far more then microsoft. Leave Bill Gates out of this, he dosn\'t pay for everything.

I used to think the same thing.  I even debated with Watchdog about it.  But after I did some research, I found out that I was wrong all along.  Those Fortune statistics are very deceiving.  They are not for total money, but for yearly revenues.  Here\'s the link if you want to see for yourself: http://www.fortune.com/indexw.jhtml?channel=list.jhtml&list_frag=list_global500.jhtml&list=19

And if you want Sony\'s and Microsoft\'s total worth, just go to a stock market site like http://www.quicken.com and look up the data there.

Bill Gates did not get all his money from Microsoft.  A lot of it he got from investing in other companies, even apposing companies like Macintosh.  His wealth does not effect the worth of Microsoft.