Games that really take advantage of the PS2\'s hardware...

In my opinion, there are many PS2 games that look nice....but which ones really push PS2? I\'m not just talking about graphics, because you can have really amazing graphics, but there may be less on-screen animation or dreadful pop-up....the games need a combination of things. For example, you could say GT3 pushes the PS2 way further than GTA3,  but that could be wrong...although GT3 looks nicer, it has far less compplex A.I routines running, far less on screen activity, sounds, ect....(I\'m not stating GTA3 pushes PS2 further than GT3, it was merely an example)

My vote goes to Jak and Daxter for the game that pushes PS2 furthest.....simply because

(a) It has absolutely NO load times, coupled with....
(b).....amazing, sharp graphics, with lovely lighting and textures...
(c).....and with scenery that can be seen for literaly miles into the distance, with lots of onscreen activity, heat hazing effects, and great character models......
(d)..............it also has hardly any slowdown, running at a constant 60fts.

And all this with no load times!

(note:I\'m not saying it\'s the best PS2 games, just the one I think has really used PS2\'s potential)

Other games are...
(1) ZOE-Cack game, but increadible detail and speed (everyone seemed to forget this games amazing technical splenor!)
(2) MSGS2
(3)Devil May Cry

[nO-One]

I think somebody\'s forgetting Gran Turismo 3 here

devil may cry did not have good graphics. some of the best graphic games are GTA3 MGS2 and Resident evilCVX (wasnt a great game just had really good graphics)

but graphics dont make the whole game

Jak and Daxter prolly pushes the PS2 the most right now..
It uses streaming and everything. (10mpps)

perhaps it was just my copy, but it most definately had load times

Originally posted by mm
perhaps it was just my copy, but it most definately had load times

What I think he meant was the fact that the world loaded very quickly then didn\'t have to load any after

Originally posted by FatJed86
devil may cry did not have good graphics. some of the best graphic games are GTA3 MGS2 and Resident evilCVX (wasnt a great game just had really good graphics)

DMC had amazing graphics IMO.  Remember, there is more to good graphics than a super-high poly count.

Ironfist: Yep. Absolutely. You could have a hundred trillion polygon sphere and it still would be.... a sphere. Good design and attention to detail can compensate and even bettered than pure hardware power.

Just look at games like Vagrant Story, Chrono Chross, FF9 etc running on the dated PSX but still looks good and can even crush a lot of crummy games like TimeStalker(redefines the meaning of BLAND graphics) on the DreamCast despite it\'s superior hardware.

Originally posted by FatJed86
devil may cry did not have good graphics. some of the best graphic games are GTA3 MGS2 and Resident evilCVX (wasnt a great game just had really good graphics)

but graphics dont make the whole game

I thought DMC looked pretty sharp myself

I didn\'t think GTA3 graphics were all that great but the AI routines and the size of the enviroments are grand

Jak and Daxters graphics and world is very impressive. I just didn\'t care for the gameplay all that much or the characters

I\'m hearing quite a bit of praise for Drakans graphics not saying there the end all, but they\'re sharp and clean and the enviroments are huge and free roaming. I\'ll probably pick the game up and judge for myself soon

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by FatJed86
devil may cry did not have good graphics

are you on crack?? :eek:

Originally posted by FatJed86
and Resident evilCVX

:eek::eek::eek: ARE YOU ON CRACK

Originally posted by mm
perhaps it was just my copy, but it most definately had load times

just your copy ol\' buddy...i mean..like...three seconds of unnoticible load time to initally start the world...small save times each time you get a new powercell (which are covered by animations) and split second cartridge length load times when you go through a warp gate

there are no points when you sit there thinking "ohh, its loading"


my vote DEFINATELY goes to J&D...amazing, up close its characters and rooms have as much details as say...Resident Evil Code Veronica X (probably better) plus you have all the rest of the world...its absolutely incredible!

lol.  I didn\'t notice this until reading all your comments.  I guess I should read a little slower.

FatJed86, how can you claim that GTA3 has great graphics (even looking past the slowdown), and not give credit to DMC for having great graphics?  like Bob said, how can you claim RE:CVX has good graphics but DMC doesn\'t?  IMO, DMC blew away RE:CVX\'s graphics (and the funfactor too )  I\'m starting to wonder if you\'ve even seen DMC.

Ico... YEAH BABY!

I think someone has been copying from a magazine - TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by ajoh432
Ico... YEAH BABY!

Hmmm...yes, it had nice graphics, but there isn\'t much onscreen activity.

Originally posted by CS2x
Hmmm...yes, it had nice graphics, but there isn\'t much onscreen activity.

*ICO Spoiler*
The second to last battle with all the black creatures had quite a bit of activity on the screen at once.  And there doesn\'t have to be a lot of activity on the screen to be a beautiful game.