Jak and Daxter!!!

and we love you for that quality [as warped as it may be], ddaryl

:surprised

[Bobs_Hardware]

ok here goes

i was a HUGE fanof the platform genre before it turned 3D it was fast, it was furious it was damned fun.  Along with Mario64 came the evolution of the 3D platformer.  Death. Of. The. Genre.  I hated ALL 3D platformers.  However, along with Jak&Daxter came the jump to the next level of graphics and this includes the realisation of the entire world at one time.  This meant that for the first time ever you could go any where in the world, see anywhere in the world, and the warp gates were just there so you didnt have to run/drive everywhere as that would take to long.  

With the whole world (including every mission practically) renderred at once gave you the ability to do non-stop missions where you could focus on one at a time, or you could do as many as you want, sometimes not even realising it, and until you get towards the end and you have to search out each in particular mission, it is non-stop fun.  Exactly what the 3D platformer genre has been missing.

That is why the game is fun, IMO  

plus the graphics are ****ing amazing

Well Bob

you describe the graphics engine as what made it great to you, nothing about the actual gameplay

but the gameplay. was essentially the exact samething we\'ve seen a billion time over again in platformers

follow the path, kill the one hit enemies, jump on a vehicle and hit specified twitch targets to get that orb or powercell.

herding 3 goats into a fence, holding a fish net in the water and catch scrolling fish just aren\'t fun.


but I guess the point I can\'t accept is the facdt that J+D has to be accessible to 8 - 12 year old crowd as well, since most kids love platformers.

I guess maybe I just do not respond to anything non hardcore and with some depth

for some reason I didn\'t feel this way playing Crash even though Crash had its younger moments I enjoyed the worlds and channeled gameplay along with the multiple unique and bizzare levels

I guess I\'m the one who is ****ed in the head, but I honestly didn\'t like the game.

[Bobs_Hardware]

umm.. no

its the same gameplay, but because of the fact that its the whole world with EVERY mission at one time, means the game is far less tedius than your standard 3D platformer, making it much more fun.  Instead of going to one place, collecting all the coins, starting it over again and doing something else, you could be completing 5 or 6 missions at once, and finishing them straight after one another meaning, for at least the first half of the game, it was great fun..  after that, it begins to become a bit like your standard 3D platformer where you are seeking out individual missions and it loses some of its.. well, fun

hum?

for me that it.. you obviously didnt enjoy it..

I\'m with ddaryl on this one.

Jak and Daxter was kind of a letdown for me. It seems to me that ND spent most of their time working on the engine and then threw in the gameplay at the end. Rayman 2 had funner elements IMO, and was overall more pleasing. Another department that J&D was lacking in was the soundtrack.. the trailers had some nice ambient/enigma type music and the actual soundtrack was more Crash-ish.

Anyhow, want a real platformer?

Maximo > Rayman 2 + J & D.