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Offline Sublimesjg
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« Reply #135 on: March 14, 2002, 11:14:09 AM »
i agree about that too

but. . .theres always a but ;)

if you go out and point fingers at every little thing you disagree with then you will end up just provoking more mindless debating

so instead of messing with say chrono because you think his statement doesnt make sense

why not wait till someone with a more reasonable opposing opinion to debate with

its really not as complicated as you make it out to be - certainly not 5 pages complicated damn
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« Reply #136 on: March 14, 2002, 12:32:00 PM »
Ok, I\'m going to place my final feelings on the situation.  Which system is better we will never know for sure, but what we can tell is that PS2 leads the market and for obvious reasons.  While I own an X-Box, PS2, and a Gamecube, I find it difficult to say which one is "the best".  It is also hard to draw a conclusion on where each system will be two years from now, when the systems hit their prime.  What I can say however is that I enjoy playing each system, as well as games on my computer.  Here\'s the situation that a lot of people fall into, as well as the reason for many arguments over which system is better.  I find it hard to play a system which has one or two good games out at the moment, when I have a system that has already had it\'s months full of good games.  Another gripe people have is the massive amount of ports X-Box has compared to exclusives.  While I\'m sure each port is improved, why wait when you can play a version that is out for what it is truly worth.  Gamecube is pretty much the same way right now, although it\'s got some big things coming it\'s way.  Which system is "the best", well, there\'s no answer, just an endless debate(such as this).

The funny thing about this entire debate started when a comment was made about how someone thought these were IGN forums.  Then a man named Docwiz comes along and intices and argument, which lead to where we are now.  This debate will never truly end until both systems are dead(past gen), but rather it will take rest and spark at any moment.

That my friends, is my final statement.
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« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2002, 01:05:48 PM »
But that\'s my whole point, and I\'m glad we are finally about to drop the loyalties and talk about it.

I don\'t want an xbox only forum nor a PS2 only forum.  I want an open forum with openminded people.

Seven, you are wrong, I could care less how badly it sells in Japan, and beyond the suport issue, I don\'t care how it sells here in relation to PS2.  What I care about are the people who feel it is their duty to post simpleminded comments in every xbox related thread.  Or people who trash ANY game that is out for xbox simply because it is xbox and will, in fact, dismiss the game entirely if they can find a jaggie in the pic.

It\'s not negativity towards the xbox that I\'m speaking out against, it\'s hypocracy and mindless fanboyism that is the problem here.  It\'s not that easy to ignore fanboyish posts when they are in every box thread and when the discussion about a game get diverted into how many systems have been sold or how many jaggies we can find or how large the controller is.
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« Reply #138 on: March 14, 2002, 01:42:58 PM »
Watchdog,most of people here like this,mm included...so we can do nothing!  This stuff is not funny for us...but it\'s funny for the majority...
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« Reply #139 on: March 14, 2002, 01:58:19 PM »
There is a direct correlation between the Japan launch and the shift in (how should I say it?) flavor on this forum. You might think it\'s never been this bad but I think many PS2 fans would agree they\'ve been putting up with it since long before the US PS2 launch. Now it\'s your turn to deal with it. Payback\'s a bi*ch. Ain\'t it Dawg?

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« Reply #140 on: March 14, 2002, 02:03:21 PM »
What payback?

Are you implying that Watchdog was one of those that bashed PS2 like people are bashing XBox now?
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« Reply #141 on: March 14, 2002, 02:07:08 PM »
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Originally posted by Ashford
What payback?

Are you implying that Watchdog was one of those that bashed PS2 like people are bashing XBox now?


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« Reply #142 on: March 14, 2002, 03:07:38 PM »
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What payback?

Are you implying that Watchdog was one of those that bashed PS2 like people are bashing XBox now?


not directly Watchdog, but every Xbox troll that bugged us bevor the launch and wanted us to believe that it will kill PS2 etc.

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« Reply #143 on: March 14, 2002, 03:12:55 PM »
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I don\'t want an xbox only forum nor a PS2 only forum. I want an open forum with openminded people.


Well, this place is good for debates (as it always has been) and as other members repeatedly said already, ignore the small number of members that do bash the Xbox mindlessly. I mean come on Watchdog, we all know how some members like to rub in those jaggies presented in the screens of Xbox games, but is it so hard to ignore them? Since when do you care what they say anyway?

Sadly (well not really), this is a PS2 board and no matter which forum you will choose, you will find a slight to heavy biasness towards PS2. If you can\'t live with it, then you better search somewhere else, because the hard truth is, it won\'t change.

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« Reply #144 on: March 14, 2002, 03:15:18 PM »
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Originally posted by Watchdog
I don\'t want an xbox only forum nor a PS2 only forum.  I want an open forum with openminded people.


Yeah, and I want world peace.

There\'s no such thing as a utopia, not with people in it.
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« Reply #145 on: March 14, 2002, 03:35:00 PM »
There can be if the mods wanted it.  That\'s it.  Sure anyone can let a situation go unchecked and obviously it will continue.  All that needs to be done is a little house cleaning.

And that stuff about payback, OMG how old are you?  You didn\'t like the trolls so now you become one?  I guess a lack of maturity is the hallmark of any good troll.
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« Reply #146 on: March 14, 2002, 04:44:58 PM »
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Originally posted by Watchdog


And that stuff about payback,


So my statement qualifies me as one of those paying back xbox trolls? Fine, think of me however you wish, reverting back to common troll behavior yourself is not going to help change the nature of these forums. I\'ve suggested several times in this thread that you just ride out the latest round of needling and see what happens. Now I\'ll put it another way;

Act like a grownup and quit crying for the mods to make your life here better.

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« Reply #147 on: March 14, 2002, 05:40:55 PM »
fortunatley [unfortunately for some], i am one of the heaviest bashers of the xbox and m$.  yet i feel have full restraint to do so.  not only because im a mod [admin], but because i own one and am VERY dissapointed.  ps2 killer what?


i cant [wont] change the way i feel towards the xbox and m$ untill my rants are reduced to moot points

and after the piss poor [© ooseven 2002] euro launch, that may be soon enough
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« Reply #148 on: March 14, 2002, 07:13:57 PM »
mm,

I\'m in the same boat your in.  You just put it in nicer words than I could.  Well, with a couple British slurrs here and there.
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« Reply #149 on: March 15, 2002, 02:38:34 PM »
Euro had a great launch in terms of games.  And it is the best launch of any system anywhere.  Will it sell at that price point?  Probably not, but like I said, if MS doesn\'t invest any money in Euro, it won\'t lose any.  Rallisport, Halo, JSRF, Gothem, DOA3, Amped, Oddworld, Tony Hawk’s, EA Sports, and Max Payne are all quality titles.  

There has not been a launch with that many great titles ever.

Act like a grown up?  I\'m the one lobbying for the fanboys and zealots to get dealt with and I\'m not a grown up?   I\'m sorry, but the people who are talking trash and bashing the xbox are the ones in need of maturity.  And when have I acted like a troll?  A troll does not ask for a resolution, a troll initiates or endorses console bashing.  Sound familiar?
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