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« Reply #225 on: March 26, 2002, 08:00:14 AM »
yeah, and gt93128641 blows away halo 13985431

BWUHAHAHAHA xbox!

PS321882 owx0r j00!

:rolleyes:

how can you argue about minute differences in graphics when PS2\'s are selling 10 times the amount of xbox\'s?

seems thats all the zealots have to argue about anymore
that a two year newer console can do better graphical gimmicks

again, :rolleyes:
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« Reply #226 on: March 26, 2002, 08:08:29 AM »
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seems thats all the zealots have to argue about anymore
that a two year newer console can do better graphical gimmicks


I\'m sorry, what exactly does PS2 offer over the DC other than flashier graphics??

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how can you argue about minute differences in graphics when PS2\'s are selling 10 times the amount of xbox\'s?


None the less, it\'s a difference.  Most likely a gap will begin to show between the two consoles a little later down the road...I\'m predicting Project Ego, Brute Force, Duality, Unreal Championship and the like will be major graphical "gimmicks".:p
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« Reply #227 on: March 26, 2002, 08:27:18 AM »
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I\'m sorry, what exactly does PS2 offer over the DC other than flashier graphics??


PS2 has nothing to offer ? :rolleyes:


oh how about

Backwards compatability
a Vast Range of both PSX and PS2 titles
the future development of online gaming
MONSTER size USe base !
out selling the compentition 10 to 1 in Japan !
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« Reply #228 on: March 26, 2002, 08:34:47 AM »
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Backwards compatability
a Vast Range of both PSX and PS2 titles


These go hand in hand...I wouldn\'t call this an advantage.

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the future development of online gaming


Is the Xbox lacking here?

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MONSTER size USe base !


It\'s been out for over 2 years, of course it\'s going to have the bigger user base.

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out selling the compentition 10 to 1 in Japan !


I fail to see why this benefits me...

Specifically talking about graphics...PS2 doesn\'t offer anymore than graphical gimmicks as mm put it...same for Xbox.
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« Reply #229 on: March 26, 2002, 08:46:54 AM »
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I fail to see why this benefits me...

to simplify it
30 million PS2 world wide = greater Console position which leads to more companies that want to launch their gammes of said very large userbase = to more console being sold etc etc

Companies will want to develop for the PS2 seeing that its User base is soo large they are assured greater profits even if few people buy their game

in other words

10% of Current PS2 owners buying a game will generate much more MONEY than 10% of Current X box owners.



Du\'h their something to be said for understanding simple Economics :rolleyes:
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« Reply #230 on: March 26, 2002, 08:53:35 AM »
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out selling the compentition 10 to 1 in Japan !


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30 million PS2 world wide


Which one did you wanna talk about?

Last I looked, Xbox is getting roughly the same amount of support the PS2 is getting.  I\'d say their future release list look on par...
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« Reply #231 on: March 26, 2002, 09:06:01 AM »
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Originally posted by Rikku


Which one did you wanna talk about?

Last I looked, Xbox is getting roughly the same amount of support the PS2 is getting.  I\'d say their future release list look on par...


What is there to talk about?  A fact is a fact.
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« Reply #232 on: March 26, 2002, 09:12:50 AM »
The question was what does PS2 offer over DC on graphics other than the obvious enhancements (graphic gimmicks as mm put it)...

ooseven replied that it is outselling the competition...

I replied that they are roughly getting the same support from the development community thus nullifying his arguement...

read all the posts...
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« Reply #233 on: March 26, 2002, 09:24:29 AM »
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Originally posted by Rikku

I\'m sorry, what exactly does PS2 offer over the DC other than flashier graphics??


Double OO didn\'t mention;

DVD playback
A company that wouldn\'t fold on their hardware at the first sign of trouble
Massive third party support

You were sorry enough to ask about PS2 over DC, no  mention of xbox, which BTW can only boast about built in H/D BB on top its graphics dazzle over PS2


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None the less, it\'s a difference.  Most likely a gap will begin to show between the two consoles a little later down the road...I\'m predicting Project Ego, Brute Force, Duality, Unreal Championship and the like will be major graphical "gimmicks".:p


Rikku, your forum style reminds me a lot of Dr Y_assman, who rarely comes around anymore after predicting that both xbox and GC would show graphics far beyond PS2 at last years E3.

Any relation?

You made your little prediction, now I\'ll make one. Whatever graphical gap the xbox can manage to widen in the future, if it ever does, will make no more difference to consumers than it has so far.
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« Reply #234 on: March 26, 2002, 09:34:50 AM »
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DVD playback
A company that wouldn\'t fold on their hardware at the first sign of trouble
Massive third party support

You were sorry enough to ask about PS2 over DC, no mention of xbox, which BTW can only boast about built in H/D BB on top its graphics dazzle over PS2


My bad, I was making reference on graphics only...it was a mere shot at mm\'s "gimmicks" post.  I\'ll be more careful in the future.

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Rikku, your forum style reminds me a lot of Dr Y_assman, who rarely comes around anymore after predicting that both xbox and GC would show graphics far beyond PS2 at last years E3.


Sorry to disappoint but I\'m not Dr Y_assman.  

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You made your little prediction, now I\'ll make one. Whatever graphical gap the xbox can manage to widen in the future, if it ever does, will make no more difference to consumers than it has so far.


Fair enough...though now we aren\'t talking strictly about graphics, but rather their impact on the consumer audience.
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« Reply #235 on: March 26, 2002, 10:12:54 AM »
rikku, *sigh*

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I\'m sorry, what exactly does PS2 offer over the DC other than flashier graphics??


i gues you TOTALLY overlooked DVD playback
compare ffX to shenmue, need i continue on the graphics department.  ok same game now?  REZ.

so we have DVD support, BETTER control, its not ummm dead, EXTENSIVE 3rd party support, larger user base, and last but not least, flashier graphics

that about sums it up

my beloved DC is eclipsed by PS2 is every shape and form

the xbox and GC will get better graphics and the PS2 will get better graphics.  all consoles are far from maxed out.  to argue it is childish.  they just show thier limitations is different ways.  Ps2 - jaggies.  xbox - blur
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« Reply #236 on: March 26, 2002, 10:22:41 AM »
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Fair enough...though now we aren\'t talking strictly about graphics, but rather their impact on the consumer audience.


Graphics have nothing to do with anything when it comes to sales and even you should know that.  Everyone should know this, but I will reiterate the point for you...

The Gameboy Advance.

It\'s outselling everything, but I\'m sure you knew that. ;)
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« Reply #237 on: March 26, 2002, 10:33:20 AM »
well, cost and portabilty affects handhelds

but for consoles, its 3rd party support that makes or breaks a console, nothing else

and thats why one console will outsell the others exponentially
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« Reply #238 on: March 26, 2002, 10:54:36 AM »
Bah... besides, how about these numbers?

Famitsu Salesfigures (4/3-10/3)


Hardware
PS2 - 76,914 / (1,018,736) - 55.6%
GBA - 30,946 / (688,148) - 22.4%
Xbox - 10,930 / (172,007) - 7.9%
Gamecube - 10,807 / (294,787) - 7.8%



Source: Fastson-\'nother thread
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« Reply #239 on: March 26, 2002, 11:05:26 AM »
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yeah this time it will push the flox box to a all new 31 FPS ;)


I\'m confident that Halo2 will run at 60fps...Halo was a Launch Game so we can expect strong improvements...don\'t be so pessimistic 007...great games on the X won\'t change your life:)

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Could you give me a link to a preview of Halo 2?


I was kidding :eek: ...I haven\'t played Halo2:p ...though I\'m confident Halo2 will be great...
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