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How does NGC compare to...
« on: April 15, 2002, 06:29:04 AM »
...Xbox? Is the graphics on par or what? If you own both consoles please do tell. :)
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2002, 07:22:44 AM »
Hi Samwise :)

Current games on both XBox and GC don\'t push the respective hardware and don\'t show their real strengths...and however...it\'s almost impossible to tell the difference between hardware X and hardware Y looking at the first games...

XBox is technically superior and can do almost everything better,potentially...

http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,s=1017&a=19278&app=1&ap=2,00.asp

...but...who does care...GCN will have its exclusive titles,beautiful titles...and think that developers make the real difference...
« Last Edit: April 15, 2002, 07:26:08 AM by BizioEE »
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2002, 08:55:24 AM »
There are some things that are possible on GCN that aren\'t on Xbox, and vice-versa.

So far, texture quality seems identical. Early Xbox games are pushing the hardware harder than early GCN games.. like Halo at 30fps w/slowdown* versus Rogue Leader at 60fps w/slowdown*. As for games, either one is good depending on your tastes. Head over to GameSpot or IGN for info on current/upcoming releases for each system.

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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2002, 09:07:09 AM »
I know GCN is great in fur effects(Star Fox:)) and cel-shaded graphics !
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2002, 10:36:19 AM »
Not owning either, I don\'t strickly qualify to answer but would like to bring up a point that never seems to get mentioned about GC. Looking at kiosks with Luigis Mansion and Pikmin running shows the NGC has a unique look to it. In both of those games the animated characters have a roundness to them that is well defined, not always quite perfect though much more pronounced than I\'ve seen so far in any games on xbox. It\'s a nice touch and a much needed change of pace from the angular look I so often end up noticing in most games. I think it must be one of the things developers are talking about when they say all three consoles will have their strengths and weakness.


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Short story long, neither console is an absolute slam-dunk winner over the other. Each has its respective upsides and downsides, although all told, I\'d have to give the technical edge to Xbox.

Unless one is playing fast and loose with the English language, superior is hardly a good choice of words to use as a substitute for "edge". The use of the word superior to describe xbox would imply the GC should be thought of as inferior or poor. Even when speaking "potentially", it just ain\'t right. No way, nuh-uh

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2002, 10:48:32 AM »
when I look at PS2 games today, I think "blech!" they are so mucky, jaggy, and dirty looking. Looking at a GC or XBox game is like night and day vs. PS2.

That said GC seems to be a workhorse, but it\'s best looking game is running FMV backgrounds and XBox\'s best Project Ego (imo) looks better, tons more so if you are saying technically.


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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2002, 10:59:39 AM »
AlteredBeast: You\'re referring to Resident Evil. Even though it has FMV backgrounds, the game is using models and lighting effects that just might stand head-and-shoulders above anything else on any system. The FMV is supposedly amazing, too. Anyways.. GCN\'s "graphical killer app" Rogue Leader uses very very little FMV in-game, and manages to pump tons of polygons on-screen in the Endor level.. at 60fps.

Project Ego looks fantastic to me, although I can\'t say that it blows away either the PS2 or GCN since the game isn\'t out yet. From what I\'ve heard, Metroid Prime just might be the most impressive game on GCN this year (graphically) and Lord only knows what AM2 is doing to upgrade the already-stellar-on-DC Shenmue II for Xbox. ;)
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2002, 11:46:44 AM »
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when I look at PS2 games today, I think "blech!" they are so mucky, jaggy, and dirty looking. Looking at a GC or XBox game is like night and day vs. PS2.

That said GC seems to be a workhorse, but it\'s best looking game is running FMV backgrounds and XBox\'s best Project Ego (imo) looks better, tons more so if you are saying technically.


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Who said anything about PS2? Those comments make you sound worse than any of the idiot/children/fanboys you were bit(hing about this forum being a heaven for last week. Making uncalled for "negative" remarks such as that, it should be no wonder to you that people get indignant. Try removing those PS2 is sh!t goggles for a second and try taking a good look at yourself for a change.

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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2002, 01:00:00 PM »
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Not owning either, I don\'t strickly qualify to answer but would like to bring up a point that never seems to get mentioned about GC. Looking at kiosks with Luigis Mansion and Pikmin running shows the NGC has a unique look to it. In both of those games the animated characters have a roundness to them that is well defined, not always quite perfect though much more pronounced than I\'ve seen so far in any games on xbox. It\'s a nice touch and a much needed change of pace from the angular look I so often end up noticing in most games. I think it must be one of the things developers are talking about when they say all three consoles will have their strengths and weakness.


A quote from the link Bizio gave:

Short story long, neither console is an absolute slam-dunk winner over the other. Each has its respective upsides and downsides, although all told, I\'d have to give the technical edge to Xbox.

Unless one is playing fast and loose with the English language, superior is hardly a good choice of words to use as a substitute for "edge". The use of the word superior to describe xbox would imply the GC should be thought of as inferior or poor. Even when speaking "potentially", it just ain\'t right. No way, nuh-uh


Don\'t get me wrong...I think GCN is a great piece of hardware but from all the tech articles I read...XBox seems to beat it in almost everything...but again...it doesn\'t mean GCN is poor...or something like this...

I can\'t wait for my GCN and I don\'t give a **** if it can\'t produce,technically,the same graphics of the XBox:)
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2002, 01:33:58 PM »
R U Kidding, for a 1st Generation game Rogue Leader was unbelievable.  Luigi\'s mansion wasn\'t much of a game, but it\'s graphics sure were top notch.

Resident Evil looks to be the best looking game thus far of all consoles, but we will have to wait.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2002, 01:59:02 PM »
If PS2 was non-existent...

I\'d have a Gamecube right now.

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2002, 04:15:18 PM »
I think X-Box can prodice the best graphics but the developers have not pushed the console far enough. Right now GC (imo) has the best graphics. I hardly ever see jaggies in SSB, SSM, Star Wars and Wave Race. I havent got RE yet but I think it has the best graohics out of all games. Also the gaming selection on the NGC is more unique than the X-Box\'s. X-Box\'s games are similar to PS2 games. While NGC has cute, fun but also challenging games. It also has a better future gaming selection IMO. F-Zero, Star Fox, Metroid, (possible FF games depending on what Square is planning to do) and the whole RE series.





      X-Box definently has an edge in hardware. But until the developers push it to its limit GC is better IMO.
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2002, 04:21:41 PM »
I like how the genre\'s on Gamecube are so dispersed. Super Monkey Ball, Smash Brothers, Rogue Leader all deal different hands to the table.

Nintendo, second to Sega, always has the most unique and "interesting" games.

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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2002, 05:35:11 PM »
now if they could just grow up...
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2002, 07:19:35 PM »
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now if they could just grow up...



Here we go again.....


Nintendo does not need to "grow up". They will do fine once all their big games are released (Mario, Star Fox, F-Zero, Eternal Darkness and Zelda).

As for the actual topic, I personally think the GC games look better so far, with games like Rouge Squadron and SSBM. At the same point, the only Xbox game I can say that I think looks amazing is Gun Valkirey or however you spell it. ;)

 

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