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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2002, 05:51:46 AM »
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Some friends and I have gotten into some heated discussions based on the downloading of music and making copies to sell and so on and so forth. I say death to all of these download sites. I hate the fact that people can go online and download music games, and even movies. It makes the stuff more and more expensive for people like myself that will go out and buy the music and movies, even games (as if you didn’t know that already). I have no problem if your paying for the stuff you download, that way it doesn’t affect me (the consumer) as much. But if you are downloading any games music or movies, you’re pirating. Especially if you sell or give copies of the stuff to your friends or whoever for that matter.

Don’t flame me for having this opinion. I just stand behind my opinions and have found that this one has often started some pretty ugly discussions.


You aren\'t paying anything extra because people download songs.  Heck, they probably just say that to justify there hideous costs for CDs.

I aslo agree that people should not make copies to sell.  That is highly illegal, but I\'m all for trading.  I wouldn\'t buy the CD anyway so they aren\'t losing a sale from me.  Maybe if they made CDs about 5 bucks a piece I would buy, but it\'s ridiculous what they charge.
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2002, 06:02:05 AM »
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You aren\'t paying anything extra because people download songs.  Heck, they probably just say that to justify there hideous costs for CDs.

I aslo agree that people should not make copies to sell.  That is highly illegal, but I\'m all for trading.  I wouldn\'t buy the CD anyway so they aren\'t losing a sale from me.  Maybe if they made CDs about 5 bucks a piece I would buy, but it\'s ridiculous what they charge.

I still say that when any industry looses money (like the video game industry) due to pirating it inadvertently will cost us the consumer a little extra somewhere. The corporate guys at any company aren’t going to take a pay cut so they up the price of their products along with the typical increases due to inflation.

Are there any sites that allow you to pay to have them put a cd together for you with your favorite songs on it?
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2002, 09:10:36 AM »
Chicken or egg?

High CD prices or piracy?

I dont\' care.  I usually buy one worth buying, but I use limewire to investigate the other songs on the album first.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2002, 10:24:25 AM »
The recording industry brought this on themselves by continuing to cheat their own customers with absurdly high audio CD prices long after the format was well adopted and manufacturing costs hit bottom.  If complete CDs cost $6, and you could download a song for $.49, the record companies would make the same profit on increased volume, and there would be no music piracy.  Of course lowering prices is heresy to the american corporation, so instead they decide to pour their resources into lawsuits against the pirates.  This will not continue forever.
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2002, 10:52:54 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2002, 11:15:53 AM »
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and I\'m so sexy.
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2002, 11:21:12 AM »
cd prices NEED to be lowered.

some places have cd\'s for like $18 which is frickin stupid.
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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2002, 11:23:20 AM »
I here ya there man! I have to pay 18 friggin’ bucks just to get some of the CD’s that my wife and I like. I say that as soon as the prices come down they will make a killing in sales. It is simply outrageous!.:mad:
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« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2002, 12:58:49 PM »
Music should be like sex, Free. :D

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« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2002, 01:30:39 PM »
I mainly DL songs for a preview, or if i dont particularly like an artist, but like 1 song. At the sametime, I have no problem with DL\'ing a complete album or an OS, or pc game..etc.

HIking the prices b/c of privacy??? That is a poor excuse made up by company execs. to increase profit. Do you have any idea how much profit everyone see\'s per cd? Its something crazy like $9-11. I know games and software have to have similar profit margins as well.

They should also thank some of these so called pirates, like the ones who are on 56k or worse(god forbid)..who DL a song and love it..so they go out and buy the album b/c they dont want to spend all of thaat time DL\'ing multiple songs.

As for ppl who DL stuff but look down upon selling that stuff, an illegal activity is an illegal activity, just b/c bootlegging the stuff carries a stiffer penalty doesnt make it any worse than just "downloading"
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2002, 02:03:54 AM »
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HIking the prices b/c of privacy??? That is a poor excuse made up by company execs. to increase profit. Do you have any idea how much profit everyone see\'s per cd? Its something crazy like $9-11. I know games and software have to have similar profit margins as well.


I think you meant, piracy.;)
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2002, 03:33:53 AM »
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Do you have any idea how much profit everyone see\'s per cd? Its something crazy like $9-11. I know games and software have to have similar profit margins as well.


Do you know how much it really costs to make that 20 dollar shirt you are wearing?

You know how much it costs to make a 100+ dollar pair of nike shoes?
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2002, 11:44:18 AM »
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You know how much it costs to make a 100+ dollar pair of nike shoes?


Yes it takes 80 Cents, in Vietnam.

 

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