Madden online ps2, but not xbox

two points

#1

The die has been cast in this generation, and we know Sony has won

*applause*

#2

However, Microsoft is optimistic that the two will be able to come to a conclusion soon.

what that means "hey EA, here\'s a fat frickin dumptruck of cash, whos yer pimp?"  i can see the headlines now

MICRO$OFT BUYS ELECTRONIC ARTS! for 524 million in stock options!

The FACT is, MS\'s plan is best for consumers...greedy third parties are the ones who will make less money off of this. This is because MS will have everything on one secure, centralized server and consumers will have to pay ONE fee to play. Not 1 for EA, 1 for Sega, 1 for Sony, etc. like you will HAVE to pay (unless they decide the game will be free...fat chance) on PS2 because only first party stuff will be centralized.

You guys whine about what is bad for developers, but NONE of you are developers. Besides, this is best for everything but money for developers. They will have to add one simple code to their games and not worry about 56k or broadband, Sony\'s servers or running their own, etc.

Why the hell would you want to play EA\'s sports games when Sega announced theirs will be on both consoles online anyways? hmmmm, NBA2K3 or NBA Live 2003??? HMMMMMMMMMMM...hmmmmmmmmm...hmmmmmmmm.

In the end, consumers win on the XBox.

I had a friend who bought one yesterday and I went over there and he basically said "I take everything back about the XBox. It says "now saving" and I realize I don\'t have a memory card! Nothing is cheap on the console. The controller cords and the system cords are thick and sturdy and the connectors are gold tipped, plus the breakaway cords are nice."

We played DOA3 for a while (which gets way more flack then it deserves, btw) and we talked about how cool PSO will be (again) and Unreal Championship, etc.


Eric Jacob

BTW, you guys really don\'t think that EA didn\'t receive some sort of reward for this action, do you? Especially since with XBox you are guaranteed everyone to have ability, but with PS2 everything id done through addons? Notice how GC, another system that makes it incredibly easy for developers (games must be free though, right?) is not getting EA sports online either? hmmmm...

Eric Jacob

you really dont think EA, [and other devs] will charge me to play madden 2k3 [and other games] online do you?

most games are peer to peer, requiring NO central server

i didnt see sega charging jack poop to play thier titles on the DC

i have to pay m$ a monthly fee to play online on xbox, plus the cost of the game.

i have to pay a store 45$ ONE TIME to play [non mmorpg\'s] online on ps2


oh the scales are a teetering

how did much yer friend pay to be able to watch DVD\'s on this xbox?  how much did he pay so he could hear digital sound output on his xbox?  oh yeah, thats right

Sega charges $15 for 3 months on PSO V2.

But, its still free for V1 players.

Plus, online out of the box.

Sega > Sony & MS!!!

i can respect any institution charging for MMORPG\'s
thats to be excepted

but sega never charged for anything else
now will sony

you initally pay for the cost of the adaptor, 40$
you pay for the title, obviously
thats it folks

i pay 40$ a month for my cable connection
ill be damned if im gonna pay m$ more just to play online
they can kiss muh ass


indeed
sega >  nintendo + sony + m$

Even Sega started charging for EVERYTHING later on down the road, they were losing money on online games. EA (the king of money > quality) will almost definetly make you pay for their online games, Sony has theirs, PlayOnline makes you pay, etc,etc,etc.

MS is a once a month fee for everything, and when PSO, Sega GT 2002, Unreal, Doom 3, Farnation (rumored), etc. start coming out you will thank MS for it\'s flat rate.


Eric Jacob

The FACT is, MS\'s plan is best for consumers...greedy third parties are the ones who will make less money off of this. This is because MS will have everything on one secure, centralized server and consumers will have to pay ONE fee to play. Not 1 for EA, 1 for Sega, 1 for Sony, etc. like you will HAVE to pay (unless they decide the game will be free...fat chance) on PS2 because only first party stuff will be centralized.

nice FACT you\'ve got there Altered. I\'m dying to hear from those, what was it again?, ~80% that don\'t have broadband enabled. I\'m sure they love MS and couldn\'t agree more with you how MS\'s plan is the best for consumers. :rolleyes:

Thus MS\'s plan, we have EA being one of the largest software companies with uncertain plans regarding Xbox games being online. Got to love how you lable this as fact... LMAO.

And btw; your little customers buying Xbox\'s and being happy have absolutely no relevance but in your own little world maybe.

I\'m gonna have to agree with Alterbeast here. Yes, Sony\'s is more attractive to big 3rd party developers now, but it\'ll scare smaller ones. The Xbox\'s online plans will get almost all the smaller 3rd pary developers, plus it will be cheaper and easier to use by the consumer (not to mention the experience MS has with dealing with online gaming, which will also give them an edge). In the long run, even with being Broadband only, it will have more and better games and be much more attractive to most gamers. No matter how much Sony & others claim that their plan is better, they\'re not:D.

Look at many other industries. In Europe where cellphones have standardized communication protocols, cellphone service is a lot better and more popular than in the US, where they don\'t exist. And Microsoft\'s plan gives just that; stardardization.

Originally posted by Chrono
IGN Just confirmed that the xbox version of madden will not be online.

To all the xbox fanboys on this forum who said that this was the best plan for developers, you were very very wrong.

and proof that its 100% MS\'s fault

In the press release
 "We feel confident about the business model presented by SCEA and their choice of an open technology infrastructure for providers and consumers."

I still believe it is the best plan.  You\'ll be singing a different tune when you\'re paying separate online fees for every onlinegame you own.  EA isn\'t supporting Xbox Live for the same reason FFXI isn\'t coming to the Xbox.  EASquare wants to charge a seperate fee while Microsoft wants a "one-price for all" strategy.  I prefer paying one price for everything that I play online.  

If EA is charging you to play Madden, what\'s stopping the smaller developers from doing the same thing?  Imagine this scenario:  

You own 10 online games for your PS2, 3 of those games charge a $10 a month fee to play online.  That\'s $30 a month you have to get off of on top of your ISP fee.  $30 a month is your cut-off point, anything over that is a no no.  But what if a totally killer online game comes out for the PS2 that you just have to get?  But it charges $10 a month...you\'re going to have to dump one of your games just to play that one.  

With Xbox Live I pay a flat fee (whatever it is) to play as many games as I want.  I like paying one fee for everything, I don\'t want 10 different bills coming to my mailbox from 10 different developers...forget that.  I\'ll sacrafice a shoddy PS2 port for two more online Xbox games.

Also, maybe if some of you would take time to take off the fanboy glasses you would see that EA has little competition on the PS2.  On the Xbox, EA has to compete with two strong franchises, Microsoft\'s NFL Fever 2003 and NFL 2K3, both of which will be online.  I haven\'t played a Madden game since Madden \'98 on the Sega Saturn and NBA Live sucks, so I could give two ****s about their decision.  

Xbox Live: Great for gamers

PS2 Online: Great for developers

That\'s what it all boils down to.

The Xbox\'s online plans will get almost all the smaller 3rd pary developers, plus it will be cheaper and easier to use by the consumer

I really doubt that... hence the fact that there is much more to gain on Sony\'s hardware where not 80% of the US online community is neglected. But maybe you can convince me otherwise?

(not to mention the experience MS has with dealing with online gaming, which will also give them an edge). In the long run, even with being Broadband only, it will have more and better games and be much more attractive to most gamers.

Hum, it isn\'t that Sony doesn\'t have any knowledge/experience in this field. :rolleyes: and again, how can it be better and more attractive to most gamers, if there are only about 20% of them that can effectively use it?

I don\'t really care if a game is online or not I am not big on online gaming anyways. And I only have t3 at school and 56k at home sucks:(

You\'re not alone, Quddus.

Originally posted by seven
nice FACT you\'ve got there Altered. I\'m dying to hear from those, what was it again?, ~80% that don\'t have broadband enabled. I\'m sure they love MS and couldn\'t agree more with you how MS\'s plan is the best for consumers.  

I have BB, and I don\'t care about those who don\'t.

Xbox Live: Great for gamers

PS2 Online: Great for developers

That\'s what it all boils down to.

Well, if it\'s good enough for gamers to buy it, developers will come, especially the small ones that can\'t afford their network.

what dont you guys understand about games being peer to peer

i dont see THPS 3 charging to play?
you think socom is gonna have a monthly fee?

all non-MMORPG PS2 games WILL BE FRICKIN FREE TO PLAY AFTER YOU BUY THE ADAPTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

most people pay 40$ or more for thier broadband connection, you think they want to pay more to play online?

why on earth would i pay MORE money to play online xbox madden 2003 WHEN I CAN JUST PLAY THE FRICKIN PC VERSION FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

again, PS2 online gaming [except MMORPG\'s] - FREE
xbox online gaming - monthly fee to play any online game

Xbox Live: Great for gamers

dont you think for a damn second that m$ or ANY other company is doing ANYTHING for "the gamers"

m$ is charging a monthly fee to make up the MILLIONS they are losing on hardware sales.  they sure as hell cant count on software sales to do that