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Offline clowd
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« on: May 23, 2002, 06:37:13 PM »
Here is EA\'s website

http://www.ea.com/easports/platforms/games/f12002/playstation2.jsp

Hope it is better then the previous F1 games for the PS2.  Come to think of it, the last console F1 game that I played and I actually liked was  F1 championship Edition.

It comes out this month, so that is a +

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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2002, 06:58:58 PM »
With EA\'s F1 games you know your gonna get crappy handling ever year, so i will be waiting for Sony\'s Formula One 2002 which is at E3 maybe we\'ll see it tomorrow.

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2002, 07:04:03 PM »
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With EA\'s F1 games you know your gonna get crappy handling ever year, so i will be waiting for Sony\'s Formula One 2002 which is at E3 maybe we\'ll see it tomorrow.


Great, maybe it will be like F1 Champ Edition.  EA F1 looks like it gets the leftovers of their budget

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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2002, 04:51:24 AM »
The controls are spot on, its just you don\'t know what its like to drive an F1 car.  

The physics make sense.  For example, if you let of the gas though the corner wind resistence presses you to the pavement more then usual allowing the car to turn better.  Have you ever noticed that F1 acually raise and lower when braking?  They raise up under heavy braking to allow the car to get more resistance and drag which makes it easier to turn.  EA F1 2001 does this correctly.  While I have to admit I can\'t drive for crap on simulation that where the realism comes in.  If everyone could drive and F1 car it wouldn\'t be a sport.   To many people who play and watch F1 don\'t know enough about to pass judgement.

F1 is the most technolocally demanding sport in the world thats why only 3 teams has a shot at the championship.  Its all about R&D and Ferrari,Mclaren and Williams have it.  (williams is getting there anyway)  Expect Jaguar to make a serious push in the next two years.  Nicka Laudas committment to the team has been lacking to this point but Ford wants more.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2002, 05:12:08 AM »
Well I hope  more manufactures get there because watching Schumacher win every week (even if he dont deserve to!) is getting pretty old.

As for the game I hope it isnt F1 2001 with updated teams, drivers.

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2002, 05:30:42 AM »
I go back and forth on this issue.

As much as I would love to have 22 cars fight without remorse for other teammates I don\'t think it will ever happen.  

These teams spend millions of dollars in R&D Engineering,  They put the most advanced car on the track every year.  Thats why they unveil them every spring with the new advancements in engines and aerodynamics.  Exhaust the air jacks everything changes every year for the "good" Well funded teams.  

The teams risk to much money having their own teammates battling it out week in and week out to be worth the teams money.  Besides if they touch they both lose.  

Nascar,  Cart and IRL mandate sameness, thus the very close racing.  Formula One needs some improvements to appeal to the USA, but it a Euro sport that loves the compentition between automakers as well as drivers.  Nascar track this, but as soon as a car gets drastically better then the others they add wind resistence or raise the cars height to level the playing field.

Thats the thing teams like Arrow and Minardi and great cars but the technology is 1-2 years old, there are the baby in the family and get the hand me downs.  Thus the Cosworth engine.  Asiatech for Minardi is well funded, but only to buy last years engines and mod them to get more power out of the years new advances.  They are always better by the end of the year.

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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2002, 05:42:36 AM »
So its a money sport.  IRL = low cost, so everyone can afford the same equipment.  F1 = Ferrari spending 170+ million on one season

Also F1 needs some American drivers, if they want to grab the attention of American auto racing fans, that is.  I believe the last American F1 driver was Eddie Cheever in 92

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2002, 05:46:33 AM »
I agree, a USA born driver would help the sport a lot.  

I heard this last weekend that AJ Foyt at one time was offered a ride with Ferrari at one point, but they wanted him to play second fiddle to someone, just like Rubens Barrichello does now.  

If you don\'t know who AJ Foyt is he is a very outspoken EX Nascar driver and now team owner.  He laughed in there face and went to Nascar without a second look.

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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2002, 05:54:50 AM »
A.J. Foyt?  You mean winner of the 24 hours of Le Mans, 4 time winner of the Indy 500, and winner of the Daytona 500?

Really though, who would want to drive in F1 if you werent on one of the top teams, or the number 1 driver?

How would it feel going into every race knowing that the Ferraris have 50+ more hp then you?

You knew it was impossible to win.

You just tried to finish good in hopes of getting a better ride.

I applaud him for going to NASCAR.  He is a true racer.  He isnt looking for the glammar of being in F1, he wants to race somewhere where he can actually win.

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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2002, 06:00:28 AM »
Exactly,  

Man its good to have someone understand what I\'am talking about.  

Sorry about the A.J. Foyt thing, I am trying to keep anyone else whos reading this "in the loop"  so they too can see the differences in these sports.  

As you can see I love F1, but I do wish they would level the playing field a little its too bad that that type of change would require the good teams to stop making such advances.

Otherwise teams would drop out trying to met the new requirements every year.

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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2002, 06:04:38 AM »
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As you can see I love F1, but I do wish they would level the playing field a little its too bad that that type of change would require the good teams to stop making such advances.

Otherwise teams would drop out trying to met the new requirements every year.


I agree.

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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2002, 11:58:58 AM »
I\'ve recently heard about a project by red bull to bring an American driver to F1.  Very exciting!

Anyways, does anyone know of any good console F1 games out there?  The last good one I played was F1 championshiop edition for PS1.

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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2002, 12:26:53 PM »
Clowd, I think if you want realism, then Formula 1 from SCE-Liverpool is probably the best buy. I bought the first game from EA (F1 Championship Season 200) and hated it. IMO, SCE-Liverpool owns the F1 games...

As for the F1 thing: It\'s not all horsepower - and I believe BMW-Williams will give Ferrari quite a run this season. With Montoya and Ralf, I hope so at least. ;)

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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2002, 12:46:18 PM »
If I remember correctly I think the recent Liverpool F1 got poor reviews.  Do you have it?

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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2002, 12:50:22 PM »
If it\'s Formula 1 2001 your talking about - well, maybe because of the graphics. Graphics weren\'t too spectacular and worse than the one F1 game from UbiSoft. At least Liverpools one had no slowdown (although a bit of aliasing and flickering problems).

What really makes Formula 1 2001 the better buy is the realism. It\'s harder than all the other F1 games, but training pays off. I think the difficulty level might be also another reason why this game got bad reviews.

And no, don\'t have it unfortunately. I played it though at the store and it doesn\'t look that bad. I still decided to wait for the 2002 version...

 

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