NBA Memorial Weekend

Originally posted by \\/apor Snake
Lakers have allowed less points per game.
Lakers have more Field Goals per game.
Lakers have more offensive repounds per game.
Lakers have more 3 pointers made per game.
Kings have more turnovers.
Lakers have more blocks per game.

And yet, none of that matters.  Why?  Because the Kings have more wins per game, the only stat that actually means anything.

The Lakers don\'t have anyone who can guard Peja.

LOL

Ok, really, your serious about that statement, right? Please go back and review last year\'s semi-finals. Fox had the best defense on Peja, ever. He was like white on rice. I have ALL footage on tape, and I\'d be gladly to send it to you. No need to fire up a feud over this point, cause it\'s just that obvious.

Whomever said the NBA was fair and pretty. It\'s a far cry from that. Officiating this playoffs is horrid, probally the worst I\'ve seen in quite awhile. Of course they don\'t play the game, they have the final say in what just happened. The officating crew up in Sacramento is horrible, I must add.

Everyone hates Horry hu?  Yeah, when someone is the clutch performer time and time again usually recieves the most heat. You can hate him all you want, but let this remain a bold statement. Robert Horry is a very smart player. Only he can deliver in those types in situations, aside from Kobe. His focus, timing, and form is all right there. I bet you if someone else took that shot, it wouldn\'t have been as nice as his. That play was definately not written up, the play was lucky, lucky as in how it all unfolded, but the shot wasn\'t. He keeps doing this throughout his entire career.

Quite honestly, the Kings are faster with their current seven man rotation. Peja is probally one of the slowest ones who runs the tiempo. He\'s just their sharp shooter. Their backcourt is phenominal with Bibby/Jackson/Cristie, because they run high tiempo games. Peja runs, but not as fluid as those three.

Also, I really dislike how you people mention Fisher flopping. Please, if you play the sport of basketball, you\'d know the role of a guard. They are susposed to take the charge, not just stay there. You\'ll learn that when you play. Vlade flops quite a lot, but why wouldn\'t he? He\'s defending the 350 pund diesel. But, he really is animated when he does so, sometimes making me think if he\'s really getting hit :rolleyes:

Originally posted by shockwaves


Because the Kings have more wins per game, the only stat that actually means anything.

Wrong, wrong, and oh yeah, wrong. The series is tied 2-2 and if we add in the total meetings between the two teams the series favors the Lakers.

So... wrong.

O\'Neal vs. Divac = O\'neal. If the kings don\'t get the Championship ring, at least we all know that Divac will win an Oscar.

LOL, that was great Vapor!

The regular season means nothing in playoffs, unless your talking about teams being tied, then the season series matters.

Anyone with the right mind would know that and wouldn\'t use such a weak excuse like that one.

Damn power, it went out right before i finished my reply, I\'ll see what i can remember....


Since when can Fisher play D? I never remembered him coming up with key defensive stops. Oh yeah, wasn\'t he the one that couldn\'t guard Bibby, forcing Kobe to try.

Fox might have been able to guard Peja LAST year. You do know that players improve over time right? Was Peja an all-star last year? No. Was he this year? Yes. Proves my point that players improve. Can Fox guard him this year? No.

If Kobe and Peja was a match up, Kobe would probably win. But not by much. Peja would still get his, as would Kobe. But Kobe would probably get more. But neither would dominate the other, so they pretty much cancel out.

So if Kobe was gonna guard Peja, Bibby would be free to roam.

I love how you say Divac should get an Oscar for flopping. You gotta watch both sides of the ball my friend. Horry flops all the time, and his are in open court, sometimes with a guy hardly moving. Divac is trying to guard a 300+ pound monster. Would you flop or let him score? While Horry sometimes flops without the ball and away from the play.

The Lakers bench can\'t come close to matching up with the Kings, no way no how. Jackson and Hedo off the bench, then maybe leave Bibby in there with Webber and Pollard/Divac. That presents all kinds of matchup problems.

Oh yeah, how is shock wrong by saying that wins are the only stat that really matters? The Kings should be up 3-1. And you can\'t deny it. The Kings are the better team, they dominate the Lakers. If they don\'t blow the lead in the 4th quarter they should have no problem beating L.A. *starts chanting "Beat L.A.!"*

like my new favorite member, Fayded, said Peja is not the player he was last year.  All of his stats are up this year, from last.

as for Peja not running the floor well.  Being a huge Saramento fan, I haven\'t missed a game this year, and only missed around 5-10 plays.  So I know Peja\'s game very well.  He is an astounding fast break player, I can\'t count how many times he\'s caught the outlet for the dip.  Also he has a great first step, watch some games when he breaks peoples ankles, see\'s the lane start to close and pull up for the J, it\'s very impressive for a 6\'9 player.

Damn power, it went out right before i finished my reply, I\'ll see what i can remember....

Haha! Just kidding...

Since when can Fisher play D? I never remembered him coming up with key defensive stops. Oh yeah, wasn\'t he the one that couldn\'t guard Bibby, forcing Kobe to try.

Fisher is a TREMENDOUS defensive PG. Ask any NBA expert and they\'ll tell you that he has the fastest hands in the west. Yes, Bibby has been outplaying him, but lets not forget Fisher\'s alternate, one of the most underrated players in the league, Lindsey Hunter. Man have you guys seen this guy play defense? It\'s frightening how quick he moves his feet. And tonight Kobe matches up against Bibby so expect Bibby to not have a great performance. Keep in mind that Fisher played excellent defense against Tony Parker on several occasions and also did good against Bonzi Wells. Bibby is tough, but thats where Lindsey Hunter can come in as a replacement. Once again, remember in San Antonio where the 3 point king himself was shutdown (Steve Smith)? Who shut him down? Fisher.

Fox might have been able to guard Peja LAST year. You do know that players improve over time right? Was Peja an all-star last year? No. Was he this year? Yes. Proves my point that players improve. Can Fox guard him this year? No.

Fact of the matter is Fox CAN guard him this series, if Peja returns. Peja\'s speed will take a nosedive and Fox will be able to keep up, the injury doesn\'t disappear and your 100% the next morning, it will linger. No Fox couldn\'t guard Peja when he was healthy, but if we\'re looking at whats important, now, then I\'m confident Fox can stick with Peja.

If Kobe and Peja was a match up, Kobe would probably win. But not by much. Peja would still get his, as would Kobe. But Kobe would probably get more. But neither would dominate the other, so they pretty much cancel out.

At this point in time with Peja\'s injury Kobe would have a much larger advantage.

So if Kobe was gonna guard Peja, Bibby would be free to roam.

Fisher/Hunter

I love how you say Divac should get an Oscar for flopping. You gotta watch both sides of the ball my friend. Horry flops all the time, and his are in open court, sometimes with a guy hardly moving. Divac is trying to guard a 300+ pound monster. Would you flop or let him score? While Horry sometimes flops without the ball and away from the play.

No, no, no. Divac is the biggest drama queen in the NBA. It\'s all over the paper, ESPN, CNNSI, etc. I\'ve seen countless articles that dog him. Don\'t bring up Horry, all players flop, but flopping is Divac\'s game.

The Lakers bench can\'t come close to matching up with the Kings, no way no how. Jackson and Hedo off the bench, then maybe leave Bibby in there with Webber and Pollard/Divac. That presents all kinds of matchup problems.

Did those stats mean nothing to you? Lakers have more players stepping up. Kings have Bobby Jackson and thats it. HEDO DOESN\'T COUNT! HE\'S STARTING NOW FOLKS! HENCE, HE\'S A STARTER! PERHAPS IT WILL BE DIFFERENT WHEN PEJA COMES BACK, BUT FOR NOW, HEJA IS STARTING.

Oh yeah, how is shock wrong by saying that wins are the only stat that really matters? The Kings should be up 3-1.

What is "should be"? I\'m sorry but "should be\'s" don\'t let you advance in the playoffs. They shouldn\'t be anything. The series is tied 2-2. No shoulds about it. The win:win ratio is equal, thus, shock is wrong.

And you can\'t deny it. The Kings are the better team, they dominate the Lakers.

Oh my oh my. You do realize that the Lakers are favored? If they dominate the Lakers the series wouldn\'t be tied 2-2. Oh wait I forgot, it "should" be 3-1 :rolleyes:

 If they don\'t blow the lead in the 4th quarter they should have no problem beating L.A. *starts chanting "Beat L.A.!"*

Well not shlt they\'ll have no problem beating L.A. if they have the lead after the fourth quarter, the game is over. :rolleyes:

Well I\'m not going to waste my breath to root against a team, I use my breath to root for my team.

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Without question the Kings have the better squad.  Anyone that doubts that doesn\'t know basketball.  How else could they always be up 10-20 points during the first 3 quarters.  I hope the refs actually call the fouls on Shaq tonight, because if they actually called him for every foul, he\'d be fouled out in the first or second quarter.

As for Fisher being able to guard Bibby...please.  Bibby took him so many times they stuck Kobe on him, who has a distinct height advantage and he still took Kobe to the hole a couple times.  I can\'t wait until tonight\'s game.  GO KINGS!

Without question the Kings have the better squad.  Anyone that doubts that doesn\'t know basketball.

Interesting, "doesn\'t know basketball" you say? How about 90% of ESPN writer\'s, sports writers, and even Sir "Charles" Barkley himself say that the Lakers have the better squad. Perhaps they don\'t know basketball. :rolleyes:

  How else could they always be up 10-20 points during the first 3 quarters.  I hope the refs actually call the fouls on Shaq tonight, because if they actually called him for every foul, he\'d be fouled out in the first or second quarter.

Yeah that is an interesting point. BUT HOW ABOUT BLOWING THOSE TWENTY POINTS IN THE FOURTH. That is a point I think you miss. Waah !!!! Shaq foul me! Waaaaaaah!! Basketball is a physical sport, I don\'t know about you but the basketball I like to watch involves little whistle blowing. But perhaps you like to watch Free Throw shooting contests.

I can\'t wait until tonight\'s game.  GO KINGS! [/B]

Right. The loser will be face to face with elimination.

okay I know this isn\'t la/sacrimento....but damn it finally living in massachusetts pays off go Celtics its about time.

Lakers....suck go KINGS!!

Originally posted by Chumpay
okay I know this isn\'t la/sacrimento....but damn it finally living in massachusetts pays off go Celtics its about time.

Lakers....suck go KINGS!!

You know that the Celtics matchup better with the Lakers. Truly if you are a Celtics fan you should be rooting your nuts off for the Lakers. If the Kings meet the Celtics in the finals, Kings will sweep. Celtics just don\'t matchup with the Kings at all.

Originally posted by unfocused
Without question the Kings have the better squad.  Anyone that doubts that doesn\'t know basketball.

I don\'t think the Kings have the better squad.  Do I not know basketball Scott?


Fayded, you are just proving your stupidity at this point.  Actually look into the things you post a little more, because you\'re talking out of your ass.  Yes, Fisher is a great defender.  

I will deny that the Kings are the better team.  If the Lakers win this in game 7, then it was a good run for the Kings.  If the Kings win it in game 7, it is a disappointment for the Lakers.  That says something.  When the playoffs started, I said it was a little more than a 50% chance the Lakers would win the title.  That says something.  They are the best team in basketball until someone proves otherwise.  The Kings haven\'t come close to proving otherwise yet.  You act like the series is 3-1.  It isn\'t, it\'s 2-2, and the Lakers are still favored to win it.

The Kings should not be up 3-1.  They are right where they should be.  They were the ones that blew game 4.

When I said the Kings have more wins per game, I meant over the year.  They have the same number in the playoffs.  I\'m just saying, don\'t take a collections of random stats like that and throw them out as proof, because none of them matter.  All that matters is wins.

As for the Lakers having no one who can guard Peja, you\'re dead wrong, for a lot of the reasons already listed.  The Lakers are a great defensive squad.  There is no one on the Kings that can\'t be defended by the Lakers.  The closest they have is Webber, not Peja.

As for Celtics fans routing for the Lakers, I wouldn\'t.  I don\'t care about matchups, I just think that the Kings are more beatable.  Especially in an NBA finals situation.

And remember, this is all coming from someone who really wants the Kings to win.  Just because I want a team to win doesn\'t mean I have to be blind to obvious facts.

I still believe that if I were a Celtic fan I would be rooting for L.A. They just matchup well, period. The Kings would cause them serious problems and I see no hope for the Celtics if they face the Kings. However we can\'t forget the Nets...but...

I feel like serrano once said (I believe it was him), "The teams in the east are playing for second place."

yes the Lakers have a great Defensive team, but why did the Kings score 40 in the first quarter?  The Lakers are good on D, but the Kings are incredible on the O, if the Kings can harness what they do in the first halfs of games, then the series is over.