Hmm..Is weed really a *gateway drug*?

Originally posted by QuDDus
WEED is from the earth. There is nothing wrong with it as long as you don\'t do it in public.

Weed keeps your head straight.

its people like you that make weed smokers look like morons

Hey, sorry for not being here sooner. I got high and forgot.

Weed is not that bad really. But in most cases you are getting it from a dealer who is proabably dealing other drugs. He can talk you into that "other ****" -Kimahri

True. Luckee, you\'d be surprised how many "weak willed" people are out there... expecially around friends and if they\'re buzzed already. There\'s also the problem with lacing. Back in the 20\'s, I think, Coca-Cola and Kellogs used to put small amounts of cocaine into their products to get people hooked on em. It\'s essencially the same thing with dealers. Marijuana isn\'t exactly a "high profit" drug either ya know. I\'ve never cared to associate with anyone who does this, but alot of times dealers will lace their marijuana with other drugs and not tell the buyer until they\'re already addicted... or at least more apt to try the pure stuff without freaking out over the fact that they\'ve just stepped up to the harder stuff.

Also once you start smoking weed you beging to wonder about the other drugs and you say to yourself..."well i have already tried weed and i love it, so why not try other drugs?". - Kimahri

Well, in a way you\'re right. I think it has a bit more to do with natural curiosity combined with what the user feels is disinformation. You hear all this bad, evil, shyt about marijuana from your HS guidance councelers.. but after trying it you find out that really it\'s mostly just scare tactics and BS. That tends to make people wonder what other drugs there are misconceptions and lies about... even those drugs which ARE genuinely very dangerous and highly addictive.

They do the same thing, and weed has been proven to make you impotent and destroys brain cells. - Racer

Not in any credible study.. at least.. no more credible than the Warren comission. :rolleyes: Like Luckee said, you post one, and we\'ll post one with conflicting results. Chances are, we can find 2 to 3 against your one.

Racer, sorry to burst yer bubble, but there is nothing in weed that is chemicaly addictive, so it would only be a mental addiction, which is just plain sad. - luckee

Actually, Racer is right.. to a digree. Marijauna is physically addictive. That\'s been proven, and it\'s fact. However.. as I said earlier. Tetra9-Hydrocanibanal is a fat soluble compound.. which means it attaches to your fat cells and stays in your body for a very long time. The high dosen\'t last more than a few hours.. but the chemical is still in your body for weeks afterward. Since you\'re body is naturally fed a constant supply of THC over the course of those weeks.. you never feel the physical side of the addiction. Try this.. go out and buy a bunch of that quick system flush fluid.. get REALLY fookin stoned several times a day, every day for like 2 weeks.. Then suddenly stop and flush your system out as quickly and completely as you can.

One beer equals about one hit...semi-euphoria for several hours, then the sun rises. - Sara

LoL - What a lightweight!

WEED is from the earth. - QuDDuS

So is Nicotine......

I LOVE THE NETHERLANDS!!!!!!!! - LUKE

Eh.. the Netherlands are a nice place to visit.. but I couldn\'t stay there for very long. Those wooden shoes hurt, and there\'s too many fu*king windmills.

also, ive smoked weed for a long time now. and ive tried coke, acid and all sorts of other drugs, and i only TRIED them. i didnt like em, so i didnt do em again. but i still smoke weed. - LUKE

I\'ve done alot of that stuff too. I like it tho.. expecially cocaine. Isn\'t it weird how, according to "health class", Cocaine is a harder drug than LSD.. but yet a Coke high isn\'t anywhere NEAR as intense as a good trip. Anymore, really, I jus do coke for the drainage. Mmmm.. I dunno what it is about that nasty bitter snot rolling down the back of your throat, numbing ya to yer tummy, that I like so much.. but I do. I\'m not too big on acid.. it makes me introspective and I end up getting lost in the corridors of my mind. Tell ya what tho.. racing games on LSD are a BLAST. I got my high score in Crazy Taxi while peakin on Shroomies. Took me two hours to finish up a 10 minuite run.

I don\'t wanna try Meth or Heroin. I\'ve heard too many horror stories about them.. and I hate needles. Pretty much I\'m jus a pill popper anymore. Gimmie a few Loretabs and Hydrocodines and I\'m set for some good times.

Originally posted by SonyFan
LoL - What a lightweight!  

Damn right!  Five hits and I\'m done.  Makes my supply last longer, too.  :fro:

Originally posted by QuDDus
WEED is from the earth. There is nothing wrong with it as long as you don\'t do it in public.

Weed keeps your head straight.

There are many plants that come from the earth that are natural poisons too.  That arguement is pretty pointless.

I think that the idea that people need a substance, like weed, to relax/put things into perspective, etc. is sad.  I\'ve never tried it, and I\'m one of the most relaxed people I know.

So what if there is no chemical addiction to weed?  That doesn\'t mean people can\'t become addicted.  There are people addicted to many things that aren\'t associated with chemical addictions.  Gambling is an example.  You say it\'s sad that people get addicted this way?  I think it\'s just as sad that people choose to try the stuff in the first place.

Originally posted by SonyFan
I\'ve done alot of that stuff too. I like it tho.. expecially cocaine. Isn\'t it weird how, according to "health class", Cocaine is a harder drug than LSD.. but yet a Coke high isn\'t anywhere NEAR as intense as a good trip. Anymore, really, I jus do coke for the drainage. Mmmm.. I dunno what it is about that nasty bitter snot rolling down the back of your throat, numbing ya to yer tummy, that I like so much.. but I do. I\'m not too big on acid.. it makes me introspective and I end up getting lost in the corridors of my mind. Tell ya what tho.. racing games on LSD are a BLAST. I got my high score in Crazy Taxi while peakin on Shroomies. Took me two hours to finish up a 10 minuite run.

I don\'t wanna try Meth or Heroin. I\'ve heard too many horror stories about them.. and I hate needles. Pretty much I\'m jus a pill popper anymore. Gimmie a few Loretabs and Hydrocodines and I\'m set for some good times.

im the opposite, i tried coke a couple times, and it didnt really do too much for me... acid on the other hand i had a little romance with. i did it pretty regularly for about 6 months.

i just grew tired of it and stopped, havent done it in about 4 years now, and i doubt i ever will again.

ive never tried herion or meth either. they kinda scare me.

but im with ya on the hydrocodine... its my favorite drug.

also im kinda curious about viagra... laugh at me if you want, i wanna try that stuff.

i heard if you take it when you dont need it it makes you a SEX MACHINE!

Eh.. the Netherlands are a nice place to visit.. but I couldn\'t stay there for very long. Those wooden shoes hurt, and there\'s too many fu*king windmills.

that makes me angry

we dutch dont walk on wooden shoes (im fact I haven seen one is 6 years) And there are about 50 windmils in holland, I bet US has more

Originally posted by luckee


That has nothing to do with anything right now. Please stay on subject.

You yourself talked about weed hurting people.  So you didn\'t stay on topic either.

*EDIT* also, for every study that shows weed to kill brain cells, I will show you one that proves otherwise. Those studies are way to vague and discriminant to prove conclusive.

Originally posted by Bozco

that was in conjunction to my reply to racer, now mm on the other hand. we both know why he said it, stems from another thread
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NowI still refuse to believe anyone that says it leads to harder stuff. Put it this way, there is a great chance one who would try a harder substance already had a underlying intrest in doing so.

I was interested in harder drugs wayy b4 I did anything else, why, b/c I was young and impressionable and saw some cousins I looked up to doing those things. So basically by the logic from some of you, my those family members were a gateway drug correct? :rolleyes:

I was yuong and dumb, yet still smart enough to NOT try the stuff. Eventualyl I began smoking weed, then drinking. Not once did doing anything else cross my mind. More time passes and I actaully quite drinkin(GASP) and smoking(GASP GASP!!). Work related reasons...

After I quite that job, I started messing around with a different group, thats when the experimentation began. Little bit of this..little bit of that. I found out it wasnt for me, I also found myself without an addiction either.

More time passes, I felt like a fool how I have aboandoned my sweet mary jane and wet liqours. I will never leave my ladies again!

I usually wait until I get to work to start my buzz.  I got a big plastic CompUSA bag that I have in my cube.  I put it over my head, then open all 8 of my dry erase makers and tape them to my cheeks and sniff those bad boys for about 5 minutes straight.

That\'s my breakfast.  So usually by 10am I\'m slapping the butts of the girls in the office.  And making truck noises whenver someone\'s cell phone rings.  For lunch I have a Vodka-Slimfast and a sensible dinner.

It keeps me regualr and I can quit when I want.  I\'m not as bad as the dude down the hall that does whiteout.  He\'s got a problem.

Hmm...well, I\'ve never done weed (2nd hand doesn\'t count, right?), so there\'s not really much I can say \'bout it. I read over the thread, and based on that info, here\'s my take on the subject:

1- Weed CAN be addictive, but it\'s mostly an obbession. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, ever hear of it? Most people think of it as something only a "crazy" person would be troubled by- but, we ALL are afflicted with it in some way or another. For example, I am addicted to caffeine in the soda pop form. I gotta have it everyday, otherwise I get severe headaches and my body just gives out by mid day. Is there something chemically addictive in pop? I\'m not sure, but I doubt it. A woman who lives in my complex sun tans everyday by the pool. She is an anglo, but her skin resembles that of an african american. She spends at least 5 hours out in the sun, A DAY. She knows damn well she looks awful. But why won\'t she stop? Obsession. I believe that weed is addictive in the same sense.

2- Weed kills brain cells. There\'s no 2 ways around it, it does. Does that mean pot heads are dumb? Some are. But not all, I suppose the ones that do it in moderation are level headed enough. But beware of idiots like whats-his-name that got banned recently.

3- "Weed comes from the earth.". So does a lot of other poisons that could seriously mess you up (or even kill you). That quote is dumb, usually coming from a pot head who has run outta "smart"arguments.

4- This one is personal. I don\'t have any feelings of resentment towards drug users. Just for the record. I never found much point in taking up a gate way drug. I often wonder if that\'d still stand if I didn\'t have that coke addiction (pun intended). Hmm, I need one right now.

:eek:

I was interested in harder drugs wayy b4 I did anything else, why, b/c I was young and impressionable and saw some cousins I looked up to doing those things. So basically by the logic from some of you, my those family members were a gateway drug correct?  

Plz, I just watched some friends and cousins smoke weed but that doesn\'t make me want to go and break the law.  In my eyes weed is just as bad as any other drug.

Originally posted by Bozco


Plz, I just watched some friends and cousins smoke weed but that doesn\'t make me want to go and break the law.  In my eyes weed is just as bad as any other drug.

Ok, so then you agree that it isnt a gateway drug right? Dont just leave us hanging, explain why weed is as bad as any other drug. People aren\'t out there stealing and killing to hit the weed one more time. People aren\'t selling themselves on corners for another hit of that pot.

[CHIZZY]

Weed IS a gateway drug.

A gateway to ......... feelin\' good.......... awhh yeah.....



*puts on an Allman Brothers record, fires up a fat doobie and feels awwwww-right!  :thepimp:

*turns up the "Bong Song"*

No way is weed a gateway drug unless you\'re a weakminded person. If you keep tellin yourself your addicted then eventually you will be. But if you just smoke once and a while... aint nothin wrong with that. This is just from my experiences.

Originally posted by luckee


Ok, so then you agree that it isnt a gateway drug right? Dont just leave us hanging, explain why weed is as bad as any other drug. People aren\'t out there stealing and killing to hit the weed one more time. People aren\'t selling themselves on corners for another hit of that pot.

Do you know if weed is a supressant or a depressant?

Either way, it alters your state of mind and clouds your judgement.