a radicle idea

psx2central\'s forums are evolving.  there\'s no way to avoid, deny, or stop it.

considering I\'ve been here since the beginning, i\'ve seen quite a few ups and downs.

nothing usually suprises me, except lately the state of console debating.  it has turned into IGN style over the months.

there\'s no point in naming names, or pointing fingers.  we\'re all too blame.  sure, people will bash certain consoles, and others find some innate offense to that.  while others, do what they do, just for fun.

i thought of closing console debating a long time ago, but it seemed to be too popular, even too myself.  plus, i liked to isolate all that heat into one forum.

then Ryu posted his idea and thoughts in the staff forum

here\'s what he said

You know, CD has been getting out of hand. I like going there a lot, and I love the great debates, but the casual thread closings and telling people to cool off isn\'t working. So, I propose this idea:

How about we close and archive Console Debating. In its place, make a board that promotes multiple console discussions. The debates can still be there, but the talk would still be allowed. There are lots of multi-console owners on here and since they frequent CD the most out of all others, we should take that into account so we can encourage the discussion of multiple platforms rather then the ridicule or debate of them.

Name the new board Multiple Console Discussion and lock off the CD board and make it hidden or seen, whatever, or an archive, so that way no one will lose posts... or if you can delete it without all of us losing our posts, that\'d be great too. Either way, it\'d be a nice new fresh start for us all. I think it\'s just what we need to rejuvinate that area of the board. I\'ll even write the rules for the board and sticky em as the first topic. I\'d love to undertake this project, especially since this area of the forums is the domain i live in.

yet another reason why Ryu has always been as asset here.
two weeks, and this goes into effect.  

please save yer "this is gonna suck" or "i dont see the point" of this, cause frankly, we don\'t care

Agreed, that place has more headaches then news as of late.

I think it\'s a great idea.

I\'m looking forward to it.

Ace

thats a pretty good idea mm and the sooner the better.

people will bash certain consoles, and others find some innate offense to that. while others, do what they do, just for fun.

It\'s not that I find it offensive when someone bashes a certain console. It\'s just man the same ppl bash the same thing over and over and over and over again. And the sad thing is the consoles are great. And week after week the same thing is bashed. If I say something I am in the wrong.

If every week I say ps2 is overhyped garbage and every ps2 thread I said a negative comment about ps2 how would that look? I mean if you don\'t like xbox, or gcn why post in those kind of threads in the console debate forum just to bash the console? If you don\'t like xbox stay out of xbox post. If you don\'t gcn stay out of gcn post.

I have no problem with anyone not liking certain consoles I could careless. It\'s just when the same none-factual points are bashed over and over it just gets annoying.

The new Idea sounds great:)

define "non-factual"

better yet, why dont the people who whine about people bashing the xbox try hanging out at some other illustrious xbox forum we like to make fun of.  

i\'ve seen many xbox threads closed cause of mindless bashing or blatent abuse.  so its not like we tolerate it.  

you dont think the xbox zealots here feed the fire, so to speak?

regardless, i\'d like to see some changes completed
im also going to try and be more pleasant in my constructive criticism

I find it annoying as well. I agree that I sometimes take the bashing too seriously as do others.

Then I think to myself, we are talking about video games and this is supposed to be fun.

I\'m trying to do that more often.

Ace

Originally posted by mm
define "non-factual"

people harping on slowdown in halo?
the xbox controller being too bulky?
blur in rallisport?
not enough A+ titles?

better yet, why dont the people who whine about us bashing the xbox try hanging out at some other illustrious xbox forum we like to make fun of

regardless, i\'d like to see some changes completed

Those are valid points and you can argue them. And those are debates you\'ve argued MM. And there is nothing wrong with that and I don\'t have a problem with you bringing up or saying you are discussed  by them.

I was refering to these type

Xbox is just a pc.
Xbox is stupid because it has pc architecture.
XBox is nothing but a big bulk box.


Comments simular to those are posted and left as being factual, by people who don\'t even own one.

Originally posted by mm
define "non-factual"

better yet, why dont the people who whine about people bashing the xbox try hanging out at some other illustrious xbox forum we like to make fun of.  

i\'ve seen many xbox threads closed cause of mindless bashing or blatent abuse.  so its not like we tolerate it.  

you dont think the xbox zealots here feed the fire, so to speak?

regardless, i\'d like to see some changes completed
im also going to try and be more pleasant in my constructive criticism

Yes constructive criticsm more people need to learn what that is. There is a way to dislike something without destroying it.

People don\'t know how to say they don\'t like something with out degrading it.

i edited my post after you quoted me, but i see completely where yer coming from

mindlessly bashing it cause of what it is or who makes it tires me

BUT, bashing consoles cause we\'re dissapointed or expected more, or are just plain bitter (me), than thats different

Originally posted by mm
i edited my post after you quoted me, but i see completely where yer coming from

mindlessly bashing it cause of what it is or who makes it tires me

BUT, bashing consoles cause we\'re dissapointed or expected more, or are just plain bitter (me), than thats different

And I am just starting to see where you where coming from with the bitter part. And now I understand. I have gotten so bitter I had to bus out my cousins dc to get me back enthusiactic about games.

I like...though I hope it turns out to be a solution.  

I wonder how it will be different though, you don\'t think it will just turn into console debating again.  I mean, the mentallity is already there.  This is a pro PS2 site...wants to see rules

exactly quddus, i get bored with games WAY too fast
perhaps owning all these consoles has shortened my attention span

i havent even finished RE remake on my GC (blade would be pissed).  i got bored and havent touched it since

same with FFx, even *gasp* GTa3

the only thing i play religiously anymore is my beloved DC

[Bobs_Hardware]

To Ginky

Ryu and I will be making the rules (although im willing to bet it will be mostly him )

and they will be up for everyone to see when the changes come into effect

Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
To Ginky

Ryu and I will be making the rules (although im willing to bet it will be mostly him )

and they will be up for everyone to see when the changes come into effect

give me a sneak peak of the rules and I\'ll give you a sneak peak of whatever you want...wink, wink

That\'s cool, I\'m sure you guys will make it work!