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Religious Debates
« on: June 21, 2002, 08:21:41 PM »
Since I\'ve been around here, I\'ve obviously seen a religious debate or two, and they all turn into 10-page opinion-fests.  I think at some point we need to just agree to disagree.  All parties seem to be intent on proving the other wrong, or trying to get someone to see things from their point of view - which I can honestly tell everyone here - is damn near impossible.

What does it matter what we can or cannot prove, regarding what happened when, or why it happened?  I don\'t think anyone can dispute that Jesus Christ DID infact exist, but many disagree on who, or even why, he really was.  I don\'t claim to have the answer.  No matter what his purpose was, he did leave us with something:  The Golden Rule.  What more do we need?  Treat others as you wish to be treated.  If every race, religion, and gender followed that simple rule, we wouldn\'t need any damned churches, or evangalists, or priests.  

For the love of God (no pun intended), reserve the right to believe in whatever the hell you want, and respect others\' rights to be left the hell alone.  

If anyone cares, I consider myself Unitarian Universalist.  These are the UU Principles:

-The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
-Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
-Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
-A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
-The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
-The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
-Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2002, 08:38:02 PM »
Yeah, but do you believe in sex before marriage and the ever important reach around?
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2002, 08:50:33 PM »
oh god... does anybody remember...

"something I pondered"

that twenty-something page thread about nearly nothing.

man, that was classic:fro:
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2002, 08:54:16 PM »
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Yeah, but do you believe in sex before marriage and the ever important reach around?


Everyone remotely important understands the value of the reach around.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2002, 08:59:15 PM »
Yeah, you\'re right (pun intended, see below).

The biggest problem here is that everybody wants to be right.
As far as I can remember everybody takes the "My opinion is the TRUTH because it\'s MINE" approach.

Well, my opinion is that religious discussions are not only pointless but one of the most common origins of hate.

Why everyone and his dog is so interested in being the sacred guadian of THE TRUTH? I don\'t know, but it\'s stupid how some people will even start a fight to assure that everybody knows that they were right. What a waste of time.

Why don\'t let everybody believe in whatever they want. As long as it doesn\'t include sacrificies to their Gods or something like that or changing the way people lives, I don\'t see any problem at all.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2002, 09:02:11 PM by Falgarok »
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2002, 09:03:23 PM »
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Yeah, you\'re right (pun intended, see below).

The biggest problem here is that everybody wants to be right.
As far as I can remember everybody takes the "My opinion is the TRUTH because it\'s MINE" approach.

Well, my opinion is that religious discussions are not only pointless but one of the most common origins of hate.

Why everyone and his dog is so interested in being the sacred guadian of THE TRUTH? I don\'t know, but it\'s stupid how some people will even start a fight to assure that everybody knows that they were right. What a waste of time.

Why don\'t let everybody believe in whatever they want. As long as it doesn\'t include sacrificies to their Gods or something like that or changing the way people lives, I don\'t see any problem at all.


I wouldnt call it fighting.  Its fun to debate sometimes.  I rather enjoyed that thread.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2002, 09:19:59 PM »
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I wouldnt call it fighting.  Its fun to debate sometimes.  I rather enjoyed that thread.

Yeah, that\'s here.

But in real life, I\'ve seen discussions like this end with two friends punching each other (and that\'s not funny I can tell you). Even if it doesn\'t come to that extreme, it always ends up in a bad way.

People can be very agressive when it comes to religion, even people that doesn\'t seem interested on it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2002, 10:54:41 PM »
Yeah, no use fighting. Just wait till you die, and you\'ll see if you were wrong or right.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2002, 11:44:20 PM »
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Yeah, no use fighting. Just wait till you die, and you\'ll see if you were wrong or right.



My only fear is not knowing even then.  Atheists are the most pessimistic realists there are.  And damn in the this day in age its hard not to be one.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2002, 12:20:57 AM »
It\'s really up to you on what you want to believe. If you want to believe there is a God, good. If you want to believe there is no God, good. No one is forcing you to believe either... But at the end, you\'ll finally know if you were wrong or if you were right.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2002, 01:50:38 AM »
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-Justice, equity and compassion


Yes, tell that to Spain vs Korea REFEREE.

Shameful
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2002, 02:04:27 AM »
Come on, Adan, forget it.

It won\'t change anything
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2002, 02:08:55 AM »
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Come on, Adan, forget it.

It won\'t change anything


I can\'t shut up... it was shameful! Spain has to speak and claim!
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2002, 03:22:30 AM »
yeah, claim the right to watch the final round from a TV set
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2002, 04:22:14 AM »
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Everyone remotely important understands the value of the reach around.


I have to say that you are a dream girl.:D
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