Can the industry support 3 consoles?

Originally posted by Ginko
With third parties actually spreading their wings, it look as if Sony needs to beef up its\' first and second party offerings.  While Naughty Dog and Polyphony
(sp?) are great, it doesn\'t seem like enough...Will Sony have the same draw as before?

What? I think Sony has the BEST 1st and 2nd party games this generation..
World Rally Championship, Gran Turismo 3 (with the three concept games), Jak and Daxter, Ico, Parappa the Rapper, Frequency, Socom (made by some SCEA team, right?), Twisted Metal Black (and the Online addon), Ka (ugly looking, but damn innovative), The Getaway, Primal ect...

Beef up? Pffft..

And about the outselling part, I dont see the winds changing anytime soon.

Originally posted by AlteredBeast

If anything I would want Sony to go, they have done everything wrong besides put a DVD player in the console (very good idea). 2 controller ports, frustrating hardware, controller that could\'ve been much improved, shoddily built hardware, etc.

Bwhah..
Why do you care if the hardware is hard to use? Do you code the games?

No, you just play them.. And hasnt PS2 given you some good games?

Oh right.. I forgot, you only swing the MS way. :rolleyes:

yeah watch, shoddily built hardware?  pffffft

and everyone knows dualshock > anything else out there

Thanks fastson...I wasn\'t aware that Sony had a part in all those.

However, your view on the rest of what I asked would be appreciated.

mm?  Are you now predicting what I\'m going to say?

There is easilly place for 3 consoles, I think we could have even more. teh market is groving everyday and is today bigger than the movieindustry.

Originally posted by Ginko


Broadband is expected to become more widely available and boom within the next 2-3 years...it looks like MS wants to lead the way.

Sony wanted to lead the way before they wisened up and realized making ps2 bb only would be shooting themselves in the foot.

It seems as though MS hasnt realized this.  bb only isnt the way to go yet

Originally posted by Clowd


Sony wanted to lead the way before they wisened up and realized making ps2 bb only would be shooting themselves in the foot.

It seems as though MS hasnt realized this.  bb only isnt the way to go yet

Think of it as a long-term investment.  They have laid the groundwork...they are one-step ahead of the competition.  Whether it will benefit them remains to be seen...

IMO, Sony has the 1st/2nd parties that interest me most. Even if most others think otherwise, I think we can all agree that Sony has come a long way with their 1st and 2nd party games: There are even games that have millions to date and I see this only getting better. Nintendo would be my second favorite 1st party (got to love those brilliant games) and well, MS doesn\'t really interest me (yet).

Let\'s see, I work in retail...you guys don\'t. PS2s are the worst built hardware since...GASP, the PSX! Before that it was the NES.

We get at least a couple PS2s back a week at Best Buy because the DVD player stops working, it stops reading some of the games, Memory cards get corrupted saves, etc. PS2 was made like junk. I think overall, Gamecube is made the best generation. It is sturdy and the only thing that we get back is controllers, as the rumble thing in the controllers go out quite easily.

fastson, PS2 has provided me with a handful of games I would never be willing to sell, but I know that becaue of PS2s harsware, they could\'ve been better on another system.

mm, They could\'ve improved many things about the dual shock II, IMO. It is NOT the best controller of the generation, hell, even Mad Catz Dual Force II is better than the regular Sony one. at least the d-pad on it is connected.


Eric Jacob

AlteredBeast: Hehe, I find it funny that the 3 most dominant consoles in gaming history are the flakiest.

Does anybody remember blowing NES cartridges? That was the extent of my NES problems.

My NES worked fine without a hitch for the nearly 8 years I had it.

I became a fan of the SMS because of NES. The stupid thing broke on me and my brothers and instead of wasting our money buying another, we bought an SMS. It became the block favorite and everyone but 3 kids had the SMS. We enjoyed superior versions of Rampage, Double Dragon, Ghouls and Ghosts, Ghostbusters, etc.

I think the three most prominent consoles is probably because there are so many good games for eash system, people feel the need to buy another when it brakes on them 2 years down the road after purchase


Eric Jacob

Originally posted by AlteredBeast
just to stir the pot, shockwaves, why? It seems MS has done just about everything right this generation so far, from building great, easy-to-use hardware, setting long-term goals, securing third party games, and securing third party exclusives.

If anything I would want Sony to go, they have done everything wrong besides put a DVD player in the console (very good idea). 2 controller ports, frustrating hardware, controller that could\'ve been much improved, shoddily built hardware, etc.


Eric Jacob

Takes me a while to reply sometimes, doesn\'t it?

Anyway, the reason I would want MS to fail is pretty simple.  I am a huge fan of Nintendo.  I actually own only one console from this generation of consoles: Gamecube.  So I wouldn\'t want Nintendo to fail, obviously.

That leaves either Sony or Microsoft.  To me, Sony seems to have really gotten a handle on the market.  They are obviously outselling everyone else by quite a large margin.  It is very unlikely that they would leave the console market anytime soon.  Sony also has many more games that interest me than Microsoft does.  It has the Final Fantasy games.  As you can tell by my avatar, I am a big fan of them.  They also just simply have a lot more games that interest me than MS.  THe interest in MS just doesn\'t seem to be there (and sales figures show that I\'m not alone in thinking that).  The whole image that MS has is bad, if you ask me.  It seems like it is thought of almost as a worse version of the PS2.  That isn\'t my opinion, but it is what I sense a lot of people think.  The thing even looks ugly, from the size, to the god awful look of the controller.  I just think that if someone had to go, they should be it

Of course, if I ultimately had my way, I\'d have it go back to Nintendo and Sega

The industry CAN support 3 consoles provided there\'s enough good games to go around. As far as I can see, the X-Box has nothing I want(tons of PC and PC-ish games that plays and looks better on the PC), the GC is still the kid\'s choice while the PS2 recently have been churning out garbages.

They all suck really.

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A disgruntled customer
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I cant see the Big N going the same way as DC. But this is for a couple of reasons.



#1: DC had no back up $. They were video game console makers. Nothing else that Im aware of. The big N has its handheld industry which is a HUGE success.

#2: If N\'s mature plan doesnt work they can fall back on pokemon. But if that did happen I\'d say everyone here wpuld lose interest.

#3: It has too good of a line up the year to not make it to the next gen. ( Mario, Cel-da, Star Fox, F-Zero, PDZ, RE1,2,3,4,Veronica, Eternal Darkness Metroid ect.)