Can the industry support 3 consoles?

In other words, do you think all 3 consoles will make it to see another generation?  You know there will be a PS3, and MS said they plan on sticking around for 20 years, and more than likely Nintendo will come around again.

If worse came to worse...who do you see dropping out?  

Has the gaming industry grown large enough to support all three systems?

Sony

I\'m 100% sure Sony will be back with PS3...but do you think they will have the same edge as before?  With third parties actually spreading their wings, it look as if Sony needs to beef up its\' first and second party offerings.  While Naughty Dog and Polyphony
(sp?) are great, it doesn\'t seem like enough...Will Sony have the same draw as before?  Do you see PS2 always outselling the competition in this generation?

Microsoft

Things were looking kinda bleak.  In some cases (Japan), it hasn\'t changed.  MS is pouring ALOT of money into this project, so I don\'t see them pulling out.  Online gaming will more than likely be the focus of next generation systems, MS is already laying the ground roots for what looks like a successful venture.  That coupled with 3rd party support on the rise, Xbox could play a great game of catching up...

Nintendo

I\'m up in the air about this one.  It\'s hard to imagine playing Mario on anything but a Nintendo system, but the same was said about Sonic.  Nintendo has always had an amazing round of 1st and 2nd party offerings, even if they were s p a c e d out to be released every two years...Silicone Knights and Retro Studios added, it looks even more promising...but rumors are flying around that Rare is going 3rd party and could possibly already have games in progress for other systems.  Does Nintendo have staying power?


Your thoughts please...Remember which forum you\'re in. hopes to create some controversy:cool:

I\'m pretty sure Sony and MS will be around for the next generation: Sony is the market leader, and MS has too much money invested.

N is up in the air.  IF they want to come back the industry will support them.

I\'m pretty sure Sony and MS will be around for the next generation:

Is that a small hint of doubt on either of their parts?  Care to share why...

N is up in the air. IF they want to come back the industry will support them.

You feel the same way...for the same reasons I posted?

i think sony will learned they are falible in this generation

PS3 will have to  be gods gift to gaming is sony wants to remain in 1st place

Originally posted by mm
i think sony will learned they are falible in this generation

PS3 will have to  be gods gift to gaming is sony wants to remain in 1st place

in a desperate attempt to start some sh1t

What do you think they screwed up on?  

Do you believe Xbox 2 has a chance of being top dog?

lol gink  

i wouldnt say they screwed up with anything
they released the best hardware they could at the time then it was released

the xbox is technically more powerfull, noone can contest that, as well it should be

sony IS doing the right thing with its online program, dont force the devs to follow a strict regime.

by the time xbox finally gets a full head of steam, PS3 will be on the horizon (2004)

if sony wants to absolutely dominate again, they need to make the PS3 not only powerfull, but EASY to develop for.  thats the only current argument from devs in the complicity of the EE

xbox 2 is too far off to even consider the implecations of it
m$ has a long road ahead of them before they recoup ANY money poured into the xbox

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nah. screw it, xbox sux0rs!  

I think the industry is too small for 3 consoles.  Anytime a system sales as poorly as 800 units,  you have a problem.  It isnt like the movie industry where pretty much every summer movie makes at least 20 million.  Games are too expensive to have that large of an audience.

Who do I see dropping out?

I really cant say Nintendo until after the release a pokemon game for the ngc.  I mean nintendo can almost survive off of gameboy alone, so their chances of dropping out are little imo

MS looks like they are in it for the long haul with their online plan and all,  but I say they are in the worst shape.  They are the new company,  with alot to prove.  And so far most have been dissapointed.  Poor hardware sales,  poor software sales,  and an online plan that the big devs dont look highly of,  not to mention is targeted to the small minority of gamers.  Not to add that x box gamers are already in the minority

As for Sony and the complexity of the ee,  well, the ee is staying from what I heard.  Maybe sony will just give it more ram and boom the problem is solved?

Originally posted by mm
lol gink  

i wouldnt say they screwed up with anything
they released the best hardware they could at the time then it was released

the xbox is technically more powerfull, noone can contest that, as well it should be

sony IS doing the right thing with its online program, dont force the devs to follow a strict regime.

by the time xbox finally gets a full head of steam, PS3 will be on the horizon (2004)

if sony wants to absolutely dominate again, they need to make the PS3 not only powerfull, but EASY to develop for.  thats the only current argument from devs in the complicity of the EE

xbox 2 is too far off to even consider the implecations of it
m$ has a long road ahead of them before they recoup ANY money poured into the xbox

Didn\'t Sony say that the EE was just the beginning and a glimpse as to what their future consoles will consist of?

The one thing I believe Sony overlooked was to create a better round of 1st party developers...but then again, they aren\'t hurting just yet.

IF MS manages to actually grab a big share of Sony\'s market, I would think it wise to release XBox 2 fairly close to PS3.  Best not to let any windows of opportunity be left open.  20 years of mistakes=alot of money.

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nah. screw it, xbox sux0rs!   [/B]

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Originally posted by Clowd
I think the industry is too small for 3 consoles.  Anytime a system sales as poorly as 800 units,  you have a problem.

This was in Japan, before the announced price drop mind you.  GC has had some slumps, in fact it\'s in one right now.
 

It isnt like the movie industry where pretty much every summer movie makes at least 20 million.  Games are too expensive to have that large of an audience.

You probably didn\'t know, but the videogame industry has surpassed the movie ind. in regards to revenue.  

 and an online plan that the big devs dont look highly of,  not to mention is targeted to the small minority of gamers.  Not to add that x box gamers are already in the minority

I really see MS\'s online plan as the beginning to something much larger.  The next generation of consoles will more than likely be internet targeted...Broadband is expected to become more widely available and boom within the next 2-3 years...it looks like MS wants to lead the way.

I can see 3 consoles in the ring, definitely. The industry\'s getting large enough to support it.

Although, I simply can\'t see how one would place MS over Nintendo in the area of "coming back". Unless the GameCube doesn\'t turn a profit in the end, Nintendo is almost definitely coming back. Up in the air my ass! Nintendo has more money than Sony and a ton of great games coming over the next 3 years.. many of them exclusive.

If this fails, I don\'t see how Xbox could do any better!

what I want to see next generation is SOny coming out with something INCREDIBLE with the CELL, and a year later, MS beats them again with off the shelf parts in terms of power. I think the next generation will be much more balanced between the systems, while Nintendo\'s will focus more on connectivity between their handheld and the user. Nintendo\'s system will be more of a niche system, but will still remain popular.

The market can easily support three consoles, it is doing it now. XBox and Gamecube are both selling well enough to support themselves and PS2 is selling well enough to support all three systems

The market is growing, rapidly in spite of economic downturn I would like to see Sega be picked up as a second party to the system with the most features and best hardware next generation, that way instead of Virtua Fighter 4 looking the way it did, it could\'ve looked better than DOA3, etc. I want Sega always working on the highest common denominator.

SHENMUE III better come out, too!!


Eric Jacob

I would love to see one of the three drop out by the next generation.  If there are two consoles instead of three, there will still be enough competition to keep quality up, and prices down.  At the same time, the quality games will be spread over two consoles, rather than three.  That means those of us who don\'t necessarily want to make 3 $200 purchases get more quality games on their one console.

And btw, if I had my way, MS would be the one to go

just to stir the pot, shockwaves, why? It seems MS has done just about everything right this generation so far, from building great, easy-to-use hardware, setting long-term goals, securing third party games, and securing third party exclusives.

If anything I would want Sony to go, they have done everything wrong besides put a DVD player in the console (very good idea). 2 controller ports, frustrating hardware, controller that could\'ve been much improved, shoddily built hardware, etc.


Eric Jacob

I don\'t want any company to leave.  Each brings something different to the table and it keeps things interesting.

Originally posted by Bozco
I don\'t want any company to leave.  Each brings something different to the table and it keeps things interesting.

BUT, if worse came to worse...which one do you think would go? And more importantly, Why?  

You don\'t have to answer...it just in interest of making the thread worthwhile. devilish grin