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Offline ##RaCeR##
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« on: June 23, 2002, 03:40:48 AM »


Sweet!

I only wish the Monaro (Australian version) had this nose. Luckee, what do you think?

Hmm...

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General Motors and its Australian division, Holden, have completed an agreement to return the legendary Pontiac GTO to U.S. highways in late 2003 as a 2004 model. Holden will produce up to 18,000 of the modern, high-performance coupes each year at its Elizabeth plant.

Bob Lutz, Chairman of GM\'s North American Operations, was a key player in bringing back the GTO as a modern interpretation of the legendary muscle car. After he drove the Holden Monaro during a recent trip to Australia, he knew he had found a vehicle to serve as the basis for the new GTO. "I love driving this car," Lutz said, raving about the Monaro\'s 5.7-liter V8, 6-speed manual transmission. "It shares that V8 heritage and a brawny, muscular stance with the classic GTO, and it will make a fine flagship for Pontiac.

The addition of the 2004 GTO to the Pontiac lineup is a giant step in Pontiac\'s mission to contemporize the way it expresses excitement for the 21st century. "We want to focus on creating vehicles with a clean, fresh expression of Pontiac styling and provide our customers with a \'total performance\' package that delivers both impressive power and superior handling," said Lynn Myers, Pontiac-GMC general manager.

"In the 2003 model year, we have the all-new Vibe® and the fresh look of the restyled Sunfire® and Grand Am® SE. We are following that with the totally redesigned 2004 Grand Prix® in the first quarter of 2003," said Myers. "The introduction of the new GTO in late 2003 will be the \'exclamation point" on the exciting evolution of the division, moving Pontiac performance to the next level."

2004 PONTIAC GTO

The 2004 Pontiac GTO will share much of the sculpted and clean styling of the current 2002 Holden Monaro CV8 coupe, with unique Pontiac brand character, including a dual-port grille and powered by a specially tuned version of the 5.7-liter LS1 V8 (shared with some models of the Chevrolet® Corvette®) mated to a choice of either a 6-speed manual or 4-speed automatic transmission. The rear-wheel-drive coupe will feature 17" alloy wheels, 2+2 bucket seating, and a premium sound system with an integrated 6-disc CD changer. Additional performance and feature details are still being finalized and will be released closer to the public unveiling of the GTO at the Los Angeles and North American International Auto Shows.

HOLDEN MONARO

The Holden Monaro was originally introduced in 1968 and was immediately lauded as the ultimate high-performance coupe. It was the first all-Australian sports coupe of its type. Strong public sentiment led Holden officials to bring back the Monaro name for its all-new 2001 coupe. Monaro became an instant classic when it was released in Australia last October and has become the most high-profile, sought-after car on Australian roads today.
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« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2002, 03:51:46 AM »
Nice!
so they finally decided to make a model for the U.S.The only thing i dslike about this car is its headlamps.

BTW ##Racer## is\'nt the monaro the same as the commodore?
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2002, 03:54:54 AM »
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BTW ##Racer## is\'nt the monaro the same as the commodore?


No. The Monaro is a two door coupe, the Commodore isn\'t. The Monaro also has 300HP. The Commodore doesn\'t.

The look similar.

I love the headlamps by the way.
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2002, 04:21:32 AM »
Awesome design!
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2002, 12:27:35 PM »
Looks like a typical pontiac :) To be honest, looks like a revamped GTP. Not bad looking though, hopefully they have upgraded the typical cheap ass plastic pontiac interior. Using the LS1 is a great platfrom for this car..MUCH can be done with that motor. I\'m sure it will be so detuned that using the intake manifolds from a camaro SS(also shares LS1) would be a great upgrade.
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2002, 03:12:10 PM »
Yeah, I don\'t know what sort of interior it will be getting. The Monaro has leather, but I doubt the GTO will, not that sorta cars image.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2002, 03:26:45 PM »
I wish the car had some styling ques from some of the classic models like this
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2002, 03:36:12 PM »
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Yeah, I don\'t know what sort of interior it will be getting. The Monaro has leather, but I doubt the GTO will, not that sorta cars image.


Leather isnt a stretch..GTP\'s can have leather..so I think the GTO will as well. Seeing how alot of ppl that are targeted remember the original GTO well.

When I talk about chitty interiors..I mean the dash..the knobs..buttons..etc..everythign feels so cheap. I wish you were here in the states. Id tell ya to hit up a pontiac dealer and see what I mean :)
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2002, 03:44:31 PM »
This is what the Monaro looks like inside.

They are small, but its all I could find.




And this is what the Monaro looks like. Same as GTO, but different nose.



Luckee, do you think the GTO will be able to compete with the likes of Mustangs and Corvettes?
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2002, 04:02:03 PM »
A neon and civic can whoop mustangs!!! Now as for cobra\'s and saleens..really depends. saleen will eat it no doubt. a vette..no..this is why.

A camaro SS cannot beat a vette..lighter than a vette..same motor..so it should win no. The SS receives a detuned LS1 motor..so Im sure the GTO will as well..or be similar to the one the SS has. A simple manifold swap from a vette would help the GTO though.
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2002, 04:05:00 PM »
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A neon and civic can whoop mustangs!!! Now as for cobra\'s and saleens..really depends. saleen will eat it no doubt. a vette..no..this is why.

A camaro SS cannot beat a vette..lighter than a vette..same motor..so it should win no. The SS receives a detuned LS1 motor..so Im sure the GTO will as well..or be similar to the one the SS has. A simple manifold swap from a vette would help the GTO though.


What Neon and what Civic are we talking about?
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2002, 04:05:33 PM »
Luckee, shouldn\'t the GTO get the same engine that the Monaro has? Its an Australian engine isn\'t it? I mean, the GTO and Monaro are essentially the same car.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2002, 04:12:57 PM »
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What Neon and what Civic are we talking about?


Ace..a VG stang isnt chit..the bottom of barrel V8\'s is easy to beat as well without major moeny invested in the neon or civic. Its called power to weight :)

So any old neon or civic. I have a buddy that eats WS6 firebirds in his civic like its no thing.

I also have a friend b4 he went full race that could eat vipers in a street neon.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2002, 04:14:37 PM »
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Luckee, shouldn\'t the GTO get the same engine that the Monaro has? Its an Australian engine isn\'t it? I mean, the GTO and Monaro are essentially the same car.


I doubt it, similar cars..even the same cars rarely receive the same components in other countries. Take the VR4 galant for instance. The US version made like 220 to the wheels stock..the j-spec VR4 made like 240 stock.
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2002, 04:15:53 PM »
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Ace..a VG stang isnt chit..the bottom of barrel V8\'s is easy to beat as well without major moeny invested in the neon or civic. Its called power to weight :)

So any old neon or civic. I have a buddy that eats WS6 firebirds in his civic like its no thing.

I also have a friend b4 he went full race that could eat vipers in a street neon.


Well I would like to see the Neon that can beat a Viper. And if it could, why on God\'s green earth would you want to spend the money on a Neon.

Yes power to weight is importand but style is also. :)

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